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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-04-29 06:36 pm

[ SECRET POST #2309 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2309 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2013-04-30 02:55 am (UTC)(link)
I really hope you mean you were oblivious to how rampant child abuse is, and not that you think fiction is the cause of it.

Also, recognizing that a relationship could have undertones, or suspecting that there is abuse going on does not mean that you fucking condone it. I've always thought that Rei was being abused and I never once thought it was OK.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-30 03:28 am (UTC)(link)
No, I don't think fic is the cause, I think it's a symptom. I am just commenting on what a common theme it is and how it must be a significant part of the human experience. And has always been. It will be very hard to eradicate if it is such a universal part of our psyches.
brightblueink: Madoka looking surprised and holding a cat (Kitten)

[personal profile] brightblueink 2013-04-30 03:42 am (UTC)(link)
Personally, I think it will be much harder to eradicate if it's NOT talked about and discussed in a bad light...

(Anonymous) 2013-04-30 04:15 am (UTC)(link)
Well I agree with that, but sometimes it seems to lead to "Don't judge, your kink is not my kink" kind of thing. And just because "you like to see it drawn or read about it doesn't mean you'd do it" type discussions. Before the internet came about, did isolated pedophiles have any idea how many others shared their interests and therefore now feel encouraged by their new communities?
brightblueink: Mawata from Pretear looking unamused. (Not amused.)

[personal profile] brightblueink 2013-04-30 04:49 am (UTC)(link)
Ugh, there's so many things that irritate me about what you just said.

(1) This secret didn't say they GOT OFF to the idea, just that they got the impression that it was happening on the show. That doesn't necessarily mean that it's their kink. None of the comments ON the secret mentioned finding it hot, either.

(2) If it WAS happening on the show, it'd probably be portrayed as pretty fucked up and NOT OKAY, like basically every other relationship on the show. This is not a series where people have healthy relationships in general, and if you actually knew the series that is being discussed here, you'd know that.

(3) Some ACTUAL VICTIMS of molestation sometimes read/write that sort of thing to work through their trauma. So no, just because you read about it doesn't mean you'd do it.

(4) Yes, the internet has probably enabled some pedophiles to find others that have the same sick problem they do. It's also allowed victims to find each other and get support, enabled people to seek out help when they maybe wouldn't have had the knowledge or ability to before, allows activists to network and spread information, etc etc etc.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-30 05:11 am (UTC)(link)
I wasn't even talking about the secret anymore. More general observations. And yes, I agree with your points.

tw: csa

(Anonymous) 2013-04-30 03:37 pm (UTC)(link)
pedophiles and pedarasts have been coming together to form a sense of fellowship, while creating materials to share amongst themselves, since time immemorial. what's different is now that those of us who have suffered abuse at their hands can also find each other and support too. I remember the day I found out other people had been through after being isolated, ashamed, and afraid for my early years. it made all the difference.