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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-05-04 03:14 pm

[ SECRET POST #2314 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2314 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-05 04:44 pm (UTC)(link)
^ Commenting on my own comment :( but I wanted to add a couple of thoughts.

Elaborating on the Ten vs Eleven thing, I just find the whole "mad man in a box" thing a lot more interesting and fun than Eleven's "oncoming storm" lonely god thing. I felt like RTD went a bit far in that, especially in the Season three finale (that was the worst). It's refreshing with Eleven to get away from that.

And secondly, I think in this discussion a lot of times Moffat hate becomes indistinguishable from hate for his characters, particularly River and Amy. And for some of us, at least for me, while we can understand and even agree with some of the criticisms leveled against his writing, we still love the characters in spite of that, and the incessant River and Amy hate gets wearying. Yes River's arc is problematic. I still think she's awesome and I get tired of hate against her. And I don't understand why I can't do both - acknowledge the problematic aspects of the writing, yet still be a fan of the character for the things about her that I do enjoy.