[ SECRET POST #2315 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2315 ⌋

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Comments

[dreemyweird]

Considering any literary device or trope inherently "bad" or "good" is silly, especially when they're very non-specific (which is obviously the case with happy endings as such).

If people look for quality writing, then, IMO, the nature of the ending should be determined by the inner logic of the story and the idea the author wants to convey. There is, however, id fic - and this is something that can ignore inner logic for the sake of tropes.

Taking into account the fact that fandoms are full of id fic and other trope-concentrated stuff, I find it ridiculous that somebody objects to having stories end happily.

I'm not entirely with you on this one - I don't hate sad endings at all - but I do love both wish-fulfillment fanfiction and happy endings, and I do wish there was more of that.

[the reason for finding sad endings "inherently superior", though, probably lies in the fact that people consider sad stories "deeper" and "more serious" than the happy ones. But, first of all, one can have plenty of drama and still use a happy finale; and, second, sad endings are not something that is meaningful a priori. Sometimes they're just dumb.
One of my favourite literary examples of a happy ending is the finale of Catch-22 - and who would call this shallow and light-hearted?..]

[(Anonymous)]

I don't see 'sad endings' as any more meaningful. To me, introducing a character/plot point that over 90% of the audience is going to get emotionally attached to, say, a loving loyal dog. And then kill off/destroy that character/plot point? How is that difficult and meaningful? It's a lazy trope! Surprise, many people find dead puppies to be a sad thing. Realizing that is a work of genius, truly!

[cbrachyrhynchos]

If people look for quality writing, then, IMO, the nature of the ending should be determined by the inner logic of the story and the idea the author wants to convey.

This! Happy endings are bad when they mangle the established principles of plot, character, and setting to achieve them. If you tell me in Act I that circumstances are bleak, in Act II that they're even worse, and in Act III that they're absolutely hopeless, you don't get to pull a magical rainbow-farting genie in the denouement out of a bottle to conclude with "happily ever after." If you say all along that a character is an asshole, you don't get to make him an angel in the last dozen pages without doing the work of setting up that character development. If you establish as a rule that something is a curse of doom, de doommity, doom DOOoooOOOooOOM, you don't get to make an exception on the last page.

[(Anonymous)]

100% this. Nothing infuriates me more than when an author pulls a happy ending out of their ass when it makes no sense for the story based on everything else that has happened. I'm fine with an "earn your happy ending" if the characters actually do earn it and it's not just an author asspull.

[(Anonymous)]

As someone who's particularly fond of Final Fantasy XIII, this is my primary problem with the story. At least XIII-2 then went ahead and trolled with that ending.