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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-05-05 03:31 pm

[ SECRET POST #2315 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2315 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-05 08:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh god yes. Yes, yes, yes, a million times yes. I'm sick of kids trying to prove how grown up they are by writing something stupidly miserable in an attempt to show how grown up they are that they can do unhappy. There is nothing wrong with "and then they all lived happily after". The first few misery!fics were entertaining because they had difference on their side, but only because they were different. Once they stopped being rare, they stopped being any good and they became the shit writing they claim to be different from.

If you disagree you can find me at the end of the rainbow with your true love. Bring candy.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-05 09:09 pm (UTC)(link)
...What? So the only reason people write sad endings is to try and prove that they're grown up? Again: What?

(Anonymous) 2013-05-05 09:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh look how mature I am I do gritty and people being miserable and death, and I paint my room black and wear black eyeliner, and rub lemon juice into my skin to make it pale because I am soooo emotionally deep.

It is the same thing every teenager does at some point. Or they try to prove they are mature by starting fights and being blase about the reality of blood and pain and getting drunk like ma daddy does befo' he smacks yo momma around in front of her pimp.

Then a person hits their mid to late twenties and realizes what an obnoxious little shit they were with all that crap when they were teen and college aged.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-05 09:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I don't doubt that there are people like that, yeah. There's probably quite a few people out there who write dark!fic because it makes them feel more mature or something. But surely not everybody who decides to write an unhappy ending/dark!fic is the person you're describing. Not only is that an unfair assumption but it's a statistical impossibility. I mean, this just doesn't make any sense...
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[personal profile] lunabee34 2013-05-05 09:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I am now imagining goth!Sophocles running around Athens squirting himself down with lemon juice and picking fights with Pericles.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-05 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
That isn't as inaccurate as you'd like it to be you know.
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[personal profile] lunabee34 2013-05-05 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh for reals. He and Aeschylus totally swapped eyeliner back and forth until Sophocles stole the prize for tragedy right out from under him in that rigged match and Aeschylus had to jet for Sicily.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-05 10:28 pm (UTC)(link)
nah, Aeschylus couldn't make it because he was too busy doing lines of coke off the back of a tortoise. Didn't you hear how he got stoned by a turtle?
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[personal profile] lunabee34 2013-05-05 10:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Hahahaahhahahaa.

And it used to be such a nice turtle. From a good family and everything. *shakes head*

(Anonymous) 2013-05-05 10:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I blame the eagle, the tortoise would never have started getting high without it.

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2013-05-05 10:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd say that the current wave of grimdark/noir writing came about because some genres were thoroughly bowdlerized by editorial demands and industry self-censorship. So you ended up with a long string of the worst Batman stories where both Batman and the antagonist were equally ridiculous, the villain because he never posed a real threat, and Batman because he could pull an equally ridiculous machina ex deus out of the cave in the last act.

So, the pendulum swung from predictable, trite, and meaningless happy conclusions to predictable, trite, and meaningless grimdark.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-06 04:05 am (UTC)(link)
the pendulum swung from predictable, trite, and meaningless happy conclusions to predictable, trite, and meaningless grimdark

And, as is the nature of things, the pendulum will swing back again to happy endings. (But it won't REALLY be a happy ending, because the pendulum will then start to move back towards grimdark, and then...) ;)