[ SECRET POST #2316 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2316 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Band of Brothers]


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[Princess Princess]


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[Once Upon a Time]


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[Doctor Who]


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[toby turner/tobuscus/tobygames]


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[Common Law]


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08.
[James May's Man Lab]


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09.
[The Enigma of Amigara Fault]


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[Mad Men]


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[Lost Girl]


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[Twilight]


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[Monsters Inc]


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[Archer]


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15.
[Super Junior / Infinite]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 062 secrets from Secret Submission Post #331.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 2 - broken links ], [ 1 (???) - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 2 - empty comments ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[mekkio]

I agree. His part could have been anyone. I just think they wanted to introduce him to see how the fandom would react and whether or not they would want to see more of him in season three. Sort of like what they did with Hook this season. Give him a small part at first. See how the audience reacts. And if it's positive, bring him back.

What I find weird about these new characters is that many of them aren't fairy tales but legends tied to real places. Like Mulan. Her story is tied directly to China. Does that mean China is a magical realm? Same thing with Lancelot. Is England a magical realm? Heck, the whole Camelot thing is tied into the Holy Grail. Where does Christianity fit in the Once Upon a Time world?

I really wish they had stuck with the fairy tales and only the fairy tales.

[(Anonymous)]

Don't forget Frankenstein too.

Christianity must be in there with the rest of the fairytales though.

[(Anonymous)]

edgy

[(Anonymous)]

Well it was once, but it hasn't had a rebellious edge since Constantine the Great.

[(Anonymous)]

Anyone that's had a Disney movie is fair game, since it's pretty much just Disney that's making the show (ABC is owned by Disney).

[(Anonymous)]

Well they have to tread careful around Peter Pan characters if they want to sell the show in the UK Commonwealth countries (that is why Tinkerbelle is Tinker Bell in some countries, and Captain Hook has been a bit evasive regarding his traditional costume and crew) lest a nasty letter from Great Ormond Street's lawyer happen, again.

[(Anonymous)]

Explanation please? Or tips for key words to use when googling about this?

[(Anonymous)]

Because of 'reasons' the British Government passed a special Act of Parliament granting the copyright and proceeds thereof of Peter Pan and all its characters and derivatives in perpetuity to Great Ormond Street Hospital for Sick Children above and beyond the usual limitations and to supersede any other law regarding copyright and ownership. Some of the British Commonwealth countries accepted that provision too.

Basically from now until the sun burns out, if you are in the UK or its Commonwealth and want to sell tickets to Peter Pan or use any of its characters you have to get permission from Great Ormond Street and give them a percentage (although they often waive the percentage for charities and uses that they perceive as being fair, which sometimes includes which piss off Disney) of profits.

So if they want to sell OUaT in the UK, then Captain Hook who is demonstrably the one from Peter Pan needs permission. However if it is a Captain with a Hook, and just enough differences to skate by on, then they are fine. Its a balancing act.

[(Anonymous)]

Ah, thank you.

[(Anonymous)]

I didn't know this, it's pretty cool. They must have sorted it out, though, because OUAT already airs in the UK - Channel 5 on Sunday evenings, I believe - and they're into season 2 already.

[(Anonymous)]

Isn't her name Tinker Bell in the original novel and not Tinkerbelle?

Then why is Robin a human

[chardmonster]

WHY DO YOU HATE FURS, DISNEY?

Re: Then why is Robin a human

[(Anonymous)]

WELL PLAYED SIR.

Re: Then why is Robin a human

[greenvelvetcake]

LION KING EPISODE

MUFASA EATS EVERYONE

Re: Then why is Robin a human

[(Anonymous)]

Well, Pongo is in the show! Let's have some lions escape from the so-far-unmentioned zoo!

[greenvelvetcake]

There are so many good fairy tales out there they could have used for inspiration, ones that aren't as well known. Maybe if they'd used the non-fairy tales to add some really different episodes, like the Frankenstein one (I admit I liked that one, because it was just so strange), if would have been more interesting, but the characters could have been replaced by other storybook characters without any change.

Next thing you know, there'll be a Hunchback of Notre Dame episode.

[(Anonymous)]

Ohhh, I hope they do that. I want to see their version of Clopin.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I remember being disappointed that they went for the most obvious and popular fairy tales when I first watched the series, especially considering how many cool ones there are often left by the wayside for Disney. Part of the reason I stopped after the first couple of episodes, that and the weird anti-adoption vibes.

[(Anonymous)]

As far as Christianity goes, I know in the pilot episode there is a cross in Emma's crib, and in one of the episodes Charming's shield has a cross on it. Plus Snow and Charming were married by a Bishop. So there is some kind of Christianity-based religion in the fairy tale world, though I assume it's drastically different than what we're used to.

I really wish the writers would breach this topic; all the fairies are nuns in the real world, so there could be interesting story potential there. In fact,

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[(Anonymous)]

the whole idea of characters having crisis's of faith could really be interesting. Every fairy tale character has memories of two entirely separate lives; I wish they would develop that idea more, especially if both lives include drastically different beliefs/world views.

[(Anonymous)]

Plus Snow and Charming were married by a Bishop

Please tell me the Bishop was all
"Mawwiage is what bwings us togethew today. Mawwiage, that bwessed awwangement, that dweam within a dweam. And wove, twue wove, wiww fowwow you fowevah and evah… So tweasuwe youw wove".

I mean if they are going with Twue Wove'th Kith as the solution to everything.

[(Anonymous)]

I totally love you.

[(Anonymous)]

No, but The Princess Bride has certainly been stealth-referenced, via either one of the writers or Robert Carlyle or both being trolls. There's at least two times that Rumpelstiltskin trots out the phrase "Twue Wove," but I don't know if it was his idea or what.