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⌈ Secret Post #2317 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

09. http://oi42.tinypic.com/2czavk0.jpg

Treguna Mekoides Trecorum Satis Dee Motherfucker

[chardmonster]

You both lose.
http://youtu.be/gxqBD0EOgCA

Re: Treguna Mekoides Trecorum Satis Dee Motherfucker

[(Anonymous)]

Filigree apogee pedigree perigee!

You are now a bunny.

Re: Treguna Mekoides Trecorum Satis Dee Motherfucker

[(Anonymous)]

The scene with him in front of the mirror trying that on himself cracks me up even now. Even with all the tension if he fails, it's just so inherently funny.

OH CHARLIE!

[chardmonster]

Re: Treguna Mekoides Trecorum Satis Dee Motherfucker

[(Anonymous)]

... I'd agree with that, actually. Which I'm slightly surprised about, to be honest. I hadn't realised that if I had to pick between the three, I'd go for Bedknobs and Broomsticks every time.

Re: Treguna Mekoides Trecorum Satis Dee Motherfucker

[dark_puck]

Substitutiary locomotion
Mystic power that's far beyond the wildest notion
It's so weird, so queer and yet wonderful to see
Substitutiary locomotion it must be




Best movie and also featuring my goddess Angela Lansbury.

Re: Treguna Mekoides Trecorum Satis Dee Motherfucker

[fingalsanteater]

Now every time I watch this movie I'm going to mentally add "motherfucker" to the end of the spell.

Come join me

[chardmonster]

under the beautiful briny sea, Fingal.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, man, OP, I agree so hard. Wizard of Oz is very childish, and so are many of the people obsessed with the film. (I've known a lot of high-drama people that list it as their favorite movie.)

Mary Poppins is so much fun.

[gloriafan]

And the cast is just so flawless in real life. You can't not love it.

[intrigueing]

Er, I love the Wizard of Oz, but Mary Poppins is definitely way more substantive and "adult" (which, btw, are two separate qualities) than Oz, particularly wrt the Banks' family dynamics. I really don't see how Mary Poppins is more kid-focused -- how? The main characters of Mary Poppins are the father, Mary, and Bert. The kids' role in that movie is much more focused on facilitating the general plot and the arcs of other characters and storylines than Wizard of Oz, which is all about Dorothy's personal story, so Oz is far more kid-focused, even though Jane and Michael are younger than Dorothy.

[othellia]

This. More than anyone else, Mary Poppins is about Mr. Banks' character arc and development. Yes, the kids are a bit naughty at first, but their behavior is never presented as the real problem in the film and directly stems from their father constantly spending more time at work than with them.

Heck, after Banks goes to accept his termination (which is quite possibly the most beautiful scene in the movie) and doesn't come immediately home, one of the other adult characters suggests he's committed suicide.

[intrigueing]

Even when I was just a little kid, that scene was my favorite :) Tied with the "Feed the Birds" number.

Serious answer

[chardmonster]

I'd argue that at least the source material of the Wizard of Oz is much more adult.

Unless you find extended Free Silver metaphors childish.

Re: Serious answer

[(Anonymous)]

I've never been remotely convinced by the claims Oz is a symbolic screed about Free Silver or any other political position. Baum did a certain amount of political activism in his day, including about the silver question, but nobody, least of all Baum, even mentioned the idea that the story could be allegorical until about sixty years after it was first published. If it was an allegory, it was a particularly bad one, since nobody even noticed while the question was even remotely relevant.

Also, most of these interpretations just slap labels on to various characters and objects like a bad political cartoon, without thinking of how they work together in the actual narrative. 'Okay, so the American everyman takes the silver standard and travels down the gold standard, along the way meeting American farmers, the steel industry, and the US's lackluster performance in the Spanish-American War (or possibly William Jennings Bryan). The four of them are tricked by a politician who lives in worthless greenback money to go kill the American West, who is served by Native Americans. The American West gets killed by getting water thrown on her American farmers get rewarded with fake brains, the steel industry gets a fake heart, and the Spanish-American War gets fake courage.' Etcetera.

I think Oz -- especially the books -- works much better as a straightforward fairy story. (And incidentally, none of the allegory theories I've heard ever account for the other thirteen Oz books Baum wrote...)

Well yeah, certainly.

[chardmonster]

American popular literature was way over hamfisted metaphor in the year 1900.



I doubt it's as pat as the original theory but you honestly think a story about a farmgirl from Kansas with silver shoes walking on a gold road and dealing with a fraudulent authority figure didn't have just a little to do with politics if it came out in 1900?

[alwaysbeenasmiler]

I'm an Oz puriest so I really don't like the MGM version. But Mary Poppins, that shit's legit!

Just wanted to share...

[(Anonymous)]

In one of my college English courses, we just finished watching Wizard of Oz as part of our curriculum. We've been exploring American literature and and its messages about how we define ourselves in terms of image (how we think of ourselves, how we allow others to perceive us, etc...).

The point: There are some worthwhile things within Wizard of Oz (and, likely--although it's been awhile so I can't speak from experience--Mary Poppins) that adults can explore.

But personal tastes are just that, and you are allowed to like and enjoy whatever you choose.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, Mary Poppins is WAY better. Mary/Bert OTP. (I contend that Bert is the unsung hero of the story--Mary Poppins laid all the groundwork, but Bert was the one who finally pulled it all together and shoved it in Mr. Banks' face. Because of course Banks had to hear it from a man for it to penetrate, even if it was just a chimney sweep--hey, give the guy a break, he couldn't overcome ALL his character flaws by the time the wind changed. :p )

Fun fact: a few of the sweeps from the rooftop dance sequence are still performing together today!

[illiadandoddity]

I think Mary and Bert are a team, actually. She brings order to the Banks family, getting the rowdy children under control pretty much immediately, she's always behaving properly, she always looks tidy (even when covered in soot, she doesn't seem dirty), and basically teaches the children the right way to behave - the actual right way, not the little miniature banker automatons their father wants. Bert brings chaos and unpredictability, but not the kind that does any harm. He encourages imagination, creativity, humor, and above all a sense of fun. Both of those things are needed to make for a happy family life and a good way for children to grow up.

[mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com]

The adults in Mary Poppins act moderately adult. None of the "adult" characters in The Wizard of Oz seem all that adult, not even the Wizard or Glinda.

[(Anonymous)]

Hey, the Mayor of Munchkinland and his advisors did. XD And Aunt Em and Uncle Henry, of course. But they were about it.

OTOH, there were moments when I could easily have mistaken Bert for a rambunctious five-year-old :) But he was grownup enough when it really counted.

[(Anonymous)]

Speaking as a foreigner that saw Oz recently...fuck that stuff is weird. And I got so many rapey and pedophilic vibes from the characters. Horrible. I felt so uncomfortable watching it.

[(Anonymous)]

I loved the Wizard of Oz movie as a kid, but couldn't get into the book. Then as an adult I read the book and decided I really didn't like the movie all that much.