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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-05-07 06:43 pm

[ SECRET POST #2317 ]


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(Anonymous) 2013-05-08 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
A lot of the hate seems to be based on the delusion this show is somehow keeping a totally serious reboot of teen titans from airing or that other "better shows were cancelled to make way for this one. Neither of which is true as it's mostly an issue of the dreaded syndication mark that gets so many western animation shows cancelled. With multiple American channels trying to fill 18-24 hours in a day with different cartoons providers tend to heavily favor as many different shows as they can rather than a smaller number of long running shows. Fans tend to misdirect their anger in these cases as they believe that it is a case of a network favoring the new over the old and believing that the new show tested better in "focus groups".

A western cartoon that makes it more that 3 seasons is unfortunately very rare, and since cartoon writers never really plan out story arcs with a concrete end in mind, it often leaves older fans put out as so many series end without a satisfactory conclusion.

On-topic: The new show is decent, but it's definitely going for something different compared to the old show and the tone seems to be trying to set itself apart while still trying to cash in on the nostalgia of the old show, which makes me question exactly who they wanted the target audience of this thing to be.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-08 01:56 am (UTC)(link)
Could you explain a little more about why 3 seasons seems to be when most animated shows are cancelled? (I am still so pissed about TF Animated)

(Anonymous) 2013-05-08 03:13 am (UTC)(link)
da

It's usually the amount of seasons/episodes they dare pay, unless it turns into a craze like spongebob and the like

[identity profile] neoyi.livejournal.com 2013-05-08 03:38 am (UTC)(link)
Dear CHRIST, me, too! :D

IDW, please, Season Four TFA comic. I've been a good girl!

(Anonymous) 2013-05-08 04:34 am (UTC)(link)
It's a combination of things but it mostly has to do with the fact that right around the 65 episode mark most channels consider the backlog of episodes large enough that they can safely get away with running re-runs for a few years before moving on to something new. It's pretty much the opposite of how serial shows like Game of Thrones or Breaking Bad is run. In something like that they broadcast to tell the story and they depend on people constantly tuning in to new episodes to drive demand and viewership. In cartoons, (and cable programs in general can be subject to this) the idea is to keep each episode as self contained as you can in order for the audience to be able to watch the show in any order at any time. This is especially true for children's television as it's generally seen that children aren't going to follow a complex plotline nearly as closely as an adult would, so emphasis is put on individual episodes and re-runs rather than star power and weaving a storyline with a clear beginning, middle and end. This is especially true with merchandise or superhero driven properties as the funding for the shows often hinges on the sales of toys or merchandise that rapidly changes to either try and create or follow trends amongst child audiences

OF course pretty much every cancelled cartoon has it's own unique nuances as well. For example, the 90's cartoon Gargoyles bit the dust due to changes in management at the Disney channel not knowing how to market it as well as the costs of its animation outweighing its own ratings. Animaniacs was cancelled partly because it failed to attract its target audience despite being popular with an older nerd audience.

Cartoons with plots like Avatar are notoriously hard to pitch and get produced and even what seems like wildly popular properties can be axed at a moments notice. Even with the internet popularity of something like the current MLP it's likely that it never would have made it past season 3 if it weren't the flagship ratings program of a brand new channel that Hasbro had risked tens of millions of dollars on startup and boosted worldwide sales of it's own MLP merchandise by something like 30% over the last 2 years.

To the people in management who decide what shows to risk money producing and broadcasting, it is often about reaching the largest audience with the smallest budget possible. For kid's especially since the age groups are much narrower than adult audiences, with separate shows targeted towards 3-6 year olds and 7-10 year olds (3 years= 3 seasons) whereas adult entertainment targets ranges like 18-35 year olds or 35-60 year olds.
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[personal profile] fangirlism 2013-05-08 03:36 am (UTC)(link)
that other "better shows were cancelled to make way for this one

This argument is made to justify the contempt people have for Ben 10: Omniverse too, and it's annoying.