[ SECRET POST #2317 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2317 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 048 secrets from Secret Submission Post #331.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Comments

Re: Major spoilers for "The Angels Take Manhattan"

[(Anonymous)]

Also I'm sure if he'd stayed and the only option really was to break her wrist to get her free, this secret would probably still be about how he was a dick in this scene. So yeah, basically fucked either way.

Re: Major spoilers for "The Angels Take Manhattan"

[intrigueing]

I disagree. If he had stayed with her and determinedly tried to help her get out intact until finally realizing that nothing was going to work and he was running out of time and couldn't dawdle any longer, and then helped her break her wrist carefully and as painlessly as possible, that would have been painfully sweet and heartwarming/heartbreaking.

Also, if he had offered to help her and River had instead thrown him out insisting she could do it herself, that would also have been a good route to take.

Re: Major spoilers for "The Angels Take Manhattan"

[(Anonymous)]

... possibly...

I think I'm hung up on the "THE DOCTOR WAS A DICK" of everyone's reactions, when it feels like that's not taking into consideration everything that was happening in that scene. And the part where he leaves happened very quickly - he freaked out about the chapter title and that's when he ran out telling River she had to free herself without breaking her wrist to change the future. Yes, I'm reading the transcript - http://www.chakoteya.net/doctorwho/33-5.htm - which not the same as seeing it but it fits what I remember of it too.

Re: Major spoilers for "The Angels Take Manhattan"

[intrigueing]

I think the main issue isn't that he made her break her wrist, it's the way he yelled at her for it and refused to help her and stormed out and was generally so insensitive about it. There was nothing stopping him from either a) staying with her and helping her do it or b) if he couldn't waste time doing that, being nice about asking her to please try to find some way to get out intact.

Or, if Moffat wanted to show him freaking out and being dickish for a moment due to stress, which is understandable, having someone snap at him for it and tell him not to be so childish, instead of having River sopping about how you shouldn't let him see the damage and how it's totally her and Amy's job to treat the 1200 year old hyper-evolved world-saving genius alien - who is still pretty mentally competent even after losing his entire family and killing his species and going through genocidal wars, among the various hellish things he's endured - like a delicate little cranky toddler who needs to be coddled, and all that bullshit. Really, it's more the context of the action than the action itself.