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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-05-08 06:37 pm

[ SECRET POST #2318 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2318 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-08 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
So you're saying that William Shakespeare is creepy?

(Anonymous) 2013-05-09 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
Can't speak for anyone else, but I draw a line between real people fic and dead people fic. If a decent amount of time has passed and neither the subjects nor anyone who knew them is likely to come across it and be creeped out or upset, that's different from folks who are alive and well and surfing the internet right now.

Did Shakespeare write about any people alive in his time in sexually explicit situations? If so, yeah, I might side-eye him for that. Although there's also a bit of a gray area if you're talking satire, which traditionally can get away with certain things other forms of fiction can't, perhaps because satire is inherently disrespectful to begin with. Most pornographic fanfic really doesn't fall into that category, however.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-09 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
da

As the anon above me pointed out, Shakespeare wrote SATIRE. Using SHAKESPEARE as an excuse for your mental illness? You're 12, aren't you?

(Anonymous) 2013-05-09 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think you know what mental illness is.

Like I said above, rps fandoms differ in intensity, and believe it or not most shippers don't think any of it is ~real~; the delusional ones are just more vocal.
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[personal profile] visp 2013-05-09 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
Nope, I'm saying you're creepy.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-09 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
Didn't answer the question.
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[personal profile] visp 2013-05-09 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
I'm also saying you can't read.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-09 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
Since you insist on being dense I'll spell it out for you: You said that "treating people as fictional" was creepy, so I asked you if you think Shakespeare using real-life historical figures in his plays is creepy too. And then you chose not to answer and resorted to name-calling instead.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-09 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
da

I don't think you know how to English oh wow.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-09 05:03 am (UTC)(link)
Care to explain how you came to this conclusion? "you know how to English" <-- great grammar right there.
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[personal profile] visp 2013-05-09 06:52 am (UTC)(link)
Well, on the bright side, if you do write RPF I'm sure anyone reading it will be so confused by your lack of basic language comprehension that they won't be creeped out by whatever you wrote. So it's kinda win-win.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-09 07:08 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, purposefully shit grammar was the point, half-a-brainiac. Your conversation with visp is basically you trying to make a strawman into a real boy.

Visp: RPFers are creepy shit.
You: Did you say something else is creepy shit?
Visp: No.
You: That doesn't answer my question.
Visp: I already did.
You: Clearly I'm failing to imply anything of value while I try to compare stalkers to Shakespeare, and pretend Shakespeare was incapable of creepiness. Because you are not engaging in my failosophical debate, I mean bait, ur meen.


You're a creep. Come to terms with that already.

DA

(Anonymous) 2013-05-09 09:06 am (UTC)(link)
No, it's more like this:

Visp: RPFers are creepy.
Anon: Shakespeare wrote fiction about real people - is that creepy?
Visp: [doesn't really answer the question, just calls names. But I don't think that's anything new]
Anon: [spells same question out in small words - admittedly, not without being a tad insulting too]
Visp: [more insults]
You - or Backup Name Caller, BNC: [inaccurately summarises conversation]
Me: WTF? Does nobody distinguish between delusional RPSers and their theories and fictionalised biography? Christ, these people had better never, ever read half the books in my collection. I wonder, do they think Hans Fallada is a Bad Author too?
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Re: DA

[personal profile] visp 2013-05-09 08:20 pm (UTC)(link)
You... really have a problem understanding the word "no," don't you?

(Anonymous) 2013-05-10 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
NA Frankly, I fail to understand how you could not see the difference between writing about historical figures who have been dead for centuries and writing about people who are still alive and who might stumble upon said writing (as might their family and friends). And I'm not talking about whether ROD is "wrong" or not - that's a thorny issue - but this is a big fat false equivalency right here.