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It seems like this whole comm hates crossovers, so I was wondering what it is about crossovers that people don't like. Is it that they are generally not well executed? Or that some canons just shouldn't be mixed? Just too prevalent, and you wouldn't mind them otherwise?

Personally, I happen to love the idea of crossovers, especially huge ones, but only based on how the canons and characters would mesh. I'm not a fan of crossovers just because an actor has been in more than one thing (I just cannot wrap my head around how Hobbitlock is supposed to work). I love my crossover ships and I have a whole bunch of them, just based on how I think the characters would react to each other. Only very occasionally can I get behind a cracky crossover (I want to put Thorin's Company in the TARDIS and see what chaos would ensue, for example) but most of my crossovers I treat like normal fanfic - not totally serious business, but no less serious than a canon-compliant fic.

So, yeah. I was just wondering what everyone else's opinions are on crossovers.

Yeah, I feel the same way as you. I really, really like crossovers, but most of them are pretty poorly done or are fusions, which I mostly don't see the point of. The interesting thing about crossovers, to me, is, figuring out how to get the two canons together, and then seeing how they play with each other. Fusions have none of that, most crossovers don't seem to be very interested in it.

But yeah, crossovers are awesome, when they're done well.

I like crossovers if I know both/all of the fandoms involved and if it makes sense in some way or another. For example, it's not too difficult to make a Doctor Who crossover work, and you can make it make sense because the point of the show is travelling in space/time. If there's too much finagling to try and get the two fandoms together I probably won't bother, because it'll take me out of the fic.

I haven't read many crossovers, but I don't mind them. If the author can make it work, then I can push canon out of my mind long enough to enjoy it. Crossovers can be pretty funny as well if you get to different people matching up, or two people with similar personalities. Character reactions to being in a different environment can be fun as well.

For me, it seems fandom is more fed up with crossovers being crossed over with so many different fandoms at once. Like people don't mind a Doctor Who & Spn crossover, but then you add 10 more fandoms to the mix and people start rolling their eyes.

I like fusions, like the cast of Avatar being the crew of Enterprise or the characters of FFVIII as Homestuck trolls, I don't really care for crossovers. I have to know both/all the canons and I've not seen very many (any) that were particularly well executed.

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Same here! Characters from one fandom, say, playing SBURB, or being students at Hogwarts, or being in a Final Fantasy world? Awesome! One cast meeting another? Not so much.

OH MAN I love when characters are students at Hogwarts. ;^;

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Yup, same. I'm not very interested in characters from one fandom meeting characters from another fandom. Dunno why, it's just not something I ever really think about or care about. But characters from one fandom in the world of another fandom, that's a lot of fun.

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I, uh, actually like crossovers, tbh. Especially if they're well done/clever - like adding little details and connections you might not have thought of.
Mainly, I like them to be somewhat plausible - if they have a similar setting/tone. (I think someone here once mentioned a crossover with Alien, Blade Runner and Avatar, which sounded pretty awesome.)

I just really, really dislike the superwholock stuff.

I love crossovers! I just don't like it when they get so popular that everyone treats them as canon. :(

I love crossovers, provided that I'm familiar with both canons. Hell, I'm writing one right now, so it'd be hypocritical of me to feel otherwise. Anyway, mine is Star Trek: Voyager/Pokemon, and I swear it's not as cracky as that sounds, or at least that's not (entirely) what I'm going for.

I did Voyager and Zelda *Trek/Nintendo high fives* (Hasn't been posted yet, I still need to beta it.)

Actually, I remember reading a Voyager/Zelda crossover years and years ago, where J&7 took the place of Link in Ocarina of Time. It may just be my nostalgia goggles showing, but I remember it being a lot of fun and really fucking hot.

So yeah, send me a link when you post it!

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I love crossovers, but I generally see them being poorly executed. Often what happens (at least as far as I've seen) is that it's less a "crossover" and more "author throws all their favorite characters into a massive AU," which is sort of... I mean, it's probably fun for them, sure, but it doesn't make for very good reading, fic-wise.

I also feel like some crossovers are just...too easy, I guess. Like Doctor Who crossovers - "The TARDIS jumps dimensions and lands the Doctor in [insert description of another canon world]!" Not saying they can't be done well, but more often than not, they just aren't.

I LOVE crossovers, but I hate badly-done crossovers people don't seem to have put much thought into.

...Well, actually, I think what I hate the very most is the giant title portmanteau.

I love crossovers.

If they're supposed to be more or less serious (to the extent the source materials are), then, two or three canons that can play well together are best.

But, if it's not meant to be serious? Bring on as many canons as you can for the gloriously OOC gangbang of ridiculousness. Come up with whatever stupid explanation you want to get them together, and run with it.

When it comes to reading fic I prefer fusions (the cast of canon A, in the setting of canon B) that kinda stuff. I don't like straight up crossovers so much. Like either the premise under which these characters are meeting is not convincing enough for me, or it is very apparent that the author favours one of the canons over the other leading to loads of 'let those awesome character from canon B show the wimps of canon D how it is done'.

I think crossovers can be done really well, so long as the settings and the basic themes of the story line up.

For shit set in the real world, especially: why not? Why couldn't the cast of Homeland cross over with the cast of, say, 24? Or CSI Miami and Dexter? Why would anyone have a problem with that?

I love *well done* crossovers. They're hard to find, but when they're done right? Utter heaven.

I like them if you can make them make sense - like you mentioned, I can't see how Hobbitlock is meant to work, short of time travel/space travel/dimension-hopping. I've written one myself, a crossover between Star Trek Voyager and Legend of Zelda - Ocarina of Time.

Justified it with: the Goddesses are originally described as coming from a distant nebula, so there's at least a CONCEPT of space travel in Zeldaverse; Skyward Sword showed that there was previously a highly technological society (robots, electronics everywhere) that ended up dying out; and Star Trek has, well, space travel. The planet Hyrule is on is just another planet in the Delta quadrant.

Sci fi is good for crossovers, since there is space travel, and, sometimes, time travel.

I adore crossovers, personally - both typical ones and fusions. They're a hell of a lot of fun, and in the hands of the right author, I think they work just as well seriously as they do crackily. I love to think about how two or more series would mesh and how characters would interact, with each other and/or with a different world. ^_^

I think that some people can be too ambitious when they choose things to crossover and that it doesn't go right because of that, but that that shouldn't overshadow some of the really awesome crossovers out there.

I looove love love crossovers. But usually in my RP. I'm a lot more picky about them in fanfic. In RP, worlds don't have to perfectly mesh, you can pick a blank world as a setting, and throw the characters together for reasons out of their control.

The fun comes in when they work together, and you start realizing all the little ways that their paths click together, and all the things that they have in common just get more and more interesting the farther the RP goes. But it's not for everyone. I get that.

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I'm somewhere in the middle? I hate crossovers when the cross over doesn't make sense. Like say...MarvelU [where regular people obviously know superheroes exist] with Gilmore Girls. That? I'd hate. But ones that make sense [For example, Star Trek/almost anything] I don't mind, and will even like if it's well written.

But I have to admit, I really, really do not like mashing a whole ton of series into one cross-over. If nothing else, trying to figure out the rules would probably leave me with a massive headache [and I'd try to figure them out without being able to stop myself.]

Actually, most of the comm, or at least a significant portion of it is pretty much warm to the whole idea of crossovers. There have been a few crossover threads in the past and I myself am an open crossover shipper of several things for months now. It's just that sometimes, when you mash things up too much (guilty) or don't provide enough information on your work (also kinda guilty) you will get eyebrows raised at you.

To me, one of those things about crossovers is that what you write, how you write it and how you present it can make people love it or hate it.
For example, I ship Mituna Captor from Homestuck and Italy Veneziano from Hetalia, and I have drawn fanart and even posted a messy drabble here at F!S about a month ago, to the delight of some users. However, I also know that despite everything, it's just never going to happen and also kinda OOC so I don't harp on it whenever I could or reference it whenever something similar pops up.

So, I think it's what what you pair or crossover that matters, it's how you think of it and how much you shout to the world about it that matters, particularly the latter.

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