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I've noticed that my friends who are into Family Guy--by which I mean really into not just watching when it's on--tend to be absolute douches.

They tend to make really racist and homophobic jokes, and then repeat them louder when you ask them to stop. They tend to be meaner in general. They tend to think being mean is hilarious in and of itself. One's married to one of my best friends, so I didn't get distance myself from him like other jerky people from college.

I mean, Family Guy has the right to be offensive. It does. And it's clearly very popular. But I also think this shit either has an effect on people or makes mean people think themselves justified. I'd compare it to South Park, which also has mean humor but also treats at least some of its main characters as ultimately decent, worthwhile people. The Simpsons are another example.

I agree with you completely. The thing people don't understand is that it's really, really difficult to make offensive jokes on a regular basis without internalizing some of those views. It just is. That doesn't mean offensive jokes can't be funny, or that no one should make them ever.

It depends on what you mean by offensive, and what the point of that offensiveness is.

I could make many very offensive racist jokes, with the intention of poking fun at racism itself. Some faux-minstrelry does this.

The issue with Family Guy is that it isn't trying to turn -isms on their head. It's directly pandering to those very into the -isms.

It also helps to normalize for those douchebags; after all, it's on a famous cartoon, so people really think this way, right?

I agree with you, actually. The people I've known who have been into any of those shows think that being an asshole to other people is hilarious, and don't stop when asked.

A friend's step-father was super into Family Guy + The Simpsons and spent a lot of time treating his stepkids like shit, even in front of me. (Calling them fat, telling them they were worthless, making fun of the dumbest shit they couldn't do right, never saying anything nice about them. Then he expected ME to laugh about it. NOT FUNNY. YOU'RE JUST AN ASS.) And there are others who are worse. Of course, I distance myself from these types of people, but I find the trend startling. Like people can't tell the difference between a TV show's shitty sense of humor and real life, where that type of humor can actually hurt people's feelings.

I can't watch those shows because I need realism in my characters--I need people to react realistically to a situation, and for people to say things that make sense. Shows like Family Guy are just a bunch of shitty jokes IMO, so I can't watch them. They just make me angry and I can't stand watching.

However, I've laughed at some Family Guy/Southpark/Simpsons jokes in the past, usually told to me by other people and properly referenced. Sometimes they say funny things. But for me, it doesn't balance out the horrible jokes.

I mean, my sister and I greet each other with, "Hey ho/skank/slut," but we know that's okay to use on each other, but not random strangers. Humor has its limits, and you have to be really careful who you use humor around.

I had a professor in high school have a stroke. Half his face didn't come back right away. It took months. He came back and taught like that. At the time, I never really thought about how much courage it took him to come and teach a bunch of asshole kids that didn't even like him. (He was always telling us how stupid we were.) But even then, I felt sorry for him. I never thought him having a stroke was funny. And shortly after high school, my former best friend ended up with Bells Palsy which, IIRC, had the same effect on her (short-term, but it was scary). She told me over the phone, "God, I wish I'd never made fun of Mr. Geometry Professor. I know what it's like now, and it's humiliating."

I can see why people think those shows are sometimes funny but they're just hurtful to me, and some people, I've noticed, like you have, take them to extremes and think it's natural or okay to act like that IRL to other people. These are the assholes who would make fun of a friend if that friend had a stroke--and that's horrifying to me. That someone would think that was, in any way, okay.

Agreed, so much.

And then they trot out my favourite line: "Why can't you take a joke?"

AHAHAHAHAHA no.

You see, I'm massively thankful that my friends (and I,actually) are into this show, but are really quite good, sympathetic people. Of course, when I'm seeing this on reruns now, I think a lot of the jokes are incredibly unfunny, so I'm starting to get fed up with it in general. My friends still like it fairly well, and I'm glad that they're all fairly antithetical to what seems to have happened to your friends.

a guy I knew in college used to quote that fucking gross Quagmire character all the time

surprise, surprise, he was kicked out of school for stalking and harassing (and possibly whatever else) women on campus

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