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⌈ Secret Post #2327 ⌋

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[Sofia the First]

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[Once Upon a Time]

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[Tara Strong, John de Lancie]

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[Cristiano Ronaldo]

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[Teen Wolf]

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[Community]

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[Batman movies (Nolan)]

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[Nine Inch Nails]

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[Harry Potter]

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[Romeo and Juliet, 1968]

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15. [SPOILERS for Supernatural]

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18. [WARNING for suicide]

[Supernatural]

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19. [WARNING for non-con]

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20. [WARNING for dubcon]

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21. [WARNING for eating disorders]

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Yeah, it's an incredibly thorny issue. However, I still think the original take is better, if purely for the reason that it deliberately disproved the fundamental argument of old-school eugenics: that whiteness was fundamentally and biologically superior. Which, considering that the original Eugenics Wars supposedly happened in the 1990s, probably would have been the driving force for them. Khan was a middle finger to all of that.

The argument made by the character of Khan decoupled race from biological supremacy, and by making Khan a villain also made the point that biological supremacy isn't necessarily desirable even in its own right, since dividing people into weaker and stronger automatically creates an unfair society even if race isn't a part of it. I mean, it wasn't perfect (still the 1960s here), but it was doing a damn sight better than just having the same old 'eugenic white superman as the villain' plot.

SA

Trying to clarify. The problem with the standard 'eugenics is wrong because it produces evil white superhumans' narrative is that it perpetuates the assumption that any quest for genetic superiority will always result in a white guy. It doesn't actually undermine the base narrative of eugenics, that whiteness is genetically superior, it just says that the quest for genetic superiority is morally wrong. It still assumes white is better, it just says that for the good of all we shouldn't pursue the realisation of that superiority.

The character of Khan hit that in two ways. It posited that the quest for genetic superiority might result in a superhuman who wasn't white, thereby knocking the 'superiority is always white' neatly by the wayside, while separately dealing with the 'eugenics is morally wrong and we shouldn't try to divide humans into artificial levels based on genetics'. It separated those two concepts out into different issues, allowing the exploration of both without overtly getting caught up in 'white man's burden' or the legacy of 19th and 20th century racially motivated eugenics.

It really was a massive step forward, as clumsily realised as it was in the research and casting departments.

This is beautiful. Can I have your name to quote you in an essay? (If you don't want to give me your actual name just tell me to make one up.)

Edited 2013-05-18 19:10 (UTC)

AYRT

I'm a bit paranoid about anonymity (possibly uselessly). Use any name you feel like. :) I hadn't realised it was something worth quoting.

This is a good comment.

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