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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-05-17 06:34 pm

[ SECRET POST #2327 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2327 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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[Sofia the First]


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[Once Upon a Time]


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[Tara Strong, John de Lancie]


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[Iron Man 3]


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[Cristiano Ronaldo]


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[BriTANick]


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[Teen Wolf]


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[Community]


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[Batman movies (Nolan)]


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[Nine Inch Nails]


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[Harry Potter]


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[Romeo and Juliet, 1968]


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15. [SPOILERS for Supernatural]



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16. [SPOILERS for Star Trek: Into Darkness]



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17. [repeat]


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18. [WARNING for suicide]

[Supernatural]


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19. [WARNING for non-con]



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20. [WARNING for dubcon]



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21. [WARNING for eating disorders]



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Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #332.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
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Re: Ricardo Montalban was white.

[personal profile] luxshine 2013-05-18 12:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't know random people on the internet got to tell other people how they should identify and why.

Again. I'm Mexican. I've lived all my life in Mexico City. I have no idea if I have Aztec blood or not, but that doesn't mean I am not Mexican or that I consider myself white.

Ricardo Montalban was Mexican. He didn't consider himself white.

Isn't that enough for you?

Re: Ricardo Montalban was white.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-18 07:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Why is Mexican incompatible with white? Aren't those two concepts that describe two different things? Isn't Mexican a national / political / cultural identifier, whereas white is... well, kind of a nonsense term, but if it's anything, isn't it describing race? Why is it impossible for a white Mexican to exist? That's what I don't understand here - your position seems to be that if someone is white they can't be Mexican, and I don't understand that at all.

(nayrt for what that's worth, and haven't posted anywhere else in this subthread)
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Re: Ricardo Montalban was white.

[personal profile] luxshine 2013-05-18 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
As someone else mentioned in this subthread, the thing is that we're talking about 'white' in the sense that USA uses it. And it that sense, with that kind of privileges and advantages, no, we're not white.

It's not about being 'exotic', it's not about 'being special'. It's a national identity. Trying to explain this when things are seen in terms of how USA sees race and racism is very, very hard.

Yes, someone can be white skinned and be Mexican, of course you can. My best friend is mexican and she's white skinned and red haired, and one of my cousins is blonde and green eyed. And they're still mexicans. But they don't have any social advantage over me, light skinned but brown haired, or my best friend of my same age who is brown skinned and with black hair. We're exactly on the same social level, and if we four go to ask for the exact same job, we have the exact same opportunities to get said job. Skin color is not as important in Mexico as its in USA. BUT cultural identity is. And my only beef with all this is that, by calling Ricardo Montalban white by USA standars, people erase his cultural identity. In Mexico no one would call him white because no one would care.