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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-05-19 03:32 pm

[ SECRET POST #2329 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2329 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-19 09:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I laugh myself and then later I think, ouch, or sometimes I just don't find it funny. In the show it's okay for women to be scientists, but they aren't fandom/media geeks--even Amy has never read a comic book (and of the cast of women, you'd think she had). Penny says for the first time in history, a woman (her) will play D&D, etc. All of that leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Women can't be media geeks on their show--Penny can't even understand the appeal of Buffy when she watches that show to make Leonard happy.

It's why I love SPN's Charlie so much: she's a positive geek portrayal--she's nice, she's brave, she's geeky, she's a lesbian, she LARPs, she has social skills (admittedly flirting w/men isn't one of them ;) ), she's awesome. She's not even trying to get between the guys (she's lesbian--she even gets to kiss another woman on screen!). I don't get the fandom hate for her--oh, NO, I'm not asking for an explanation, I've seen their "reasons"--I don't care, so don't try to explain it to me. Contrast her w/Penny, Bernadette, or Amy.....yeah, they lose, which is awful since BBT is all about the geeks and science and the media (fandom, etc.) but we can't have a Charlie (even excluding the lesbian part) on the show.

And people totally buy Leonard's Nice Guy to Penny (and he even admits he's Nice Guying her) as him being genuinely nice (not) and Penny owes him. It's the fans buying unironically into the show and thinking they're good role models/this is how geek really behave irl that makes me cringe.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-19 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Re: social skills: I kinda wish that wasn't considered a requirement for a positive portrayal of a female geek. I mean, a lot of us don't have great social skills, and that's not a terrible thing (as long as we don't have the kind of poor social skills that translate into not caring if we hurt people - which is not the same as not recognizing.) I'd love to see a female character who was geeky, intelligent, a good person, and awkward, and not have that be portrayed as a flaw.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-19 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Not really geeky but I think Felicity from Arrow falls into the category of nice nerdy girl who has chronic foot-in-mouth syndrome and is a good person(at least as far as episode 12 has told me, maybe she does a 180 later on or something?). I honestly love her to bits and she's easily one of my favourite lady characters on TV atm.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-20 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
Raj's girlfriend has social anxiety and so far it's been treated fairly realistically. Problem is the lack of social skills means it's complicated for her to be a regular character - how can you have a consistent working character who can't socialize with anyone? How would that work and remain entertaining and productive? It may be realistic but it's like making an anti-social character... if they never interact with anyone you can't get much out of them.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-19 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I really like how Parks and Recreation handles people being nerds - just normal people, but sometimes they really, really want to talk about Game of Thrones.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-20 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
This is why I find Ben Wyatt so much more relatable than anyone on the Big Bang Theory.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-20 11:46 am (UTC)(link)
Amen.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-20 02:02 pm (UTC)(link)
THIS

I don't even have words to describe how much I love the portrayal of geekiness in Parks & Rec. It feels really realistic and true to my experience.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-20 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Haha yes, I can relate to him a lot. I love how natural his 'geek' personality is and that they all tease one another. There's no ostracizing there like it's often portrayed in BBT.