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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

You have no idea how the television/broadcast business works do you? The parent company negotiates separate deals with each country who then own the rights to show material in that country alone. If you can't see something where you live, blame the people who own the rights where you live, not the people who made the thing in the first place. It's all about money and protecting copyright, and it will never be about anything else.

[(Anonymous)]

You've never lived anywhere third world and tiny, have you?

[(Anonymous)]

I don't blame people for doing it, I'd do it. But if people were more realistic about the business aspect of media they'd be less angry perhaps. Perhaps not though. Whatev..

[mekkio]

So, it's the big companies' fault?

Hey, I pirate shows. I don't want to wait either. Or I know there is no way that certain shows are going to be shipped over seas. But I don't try to justify it.

Can't stand people who go, "Well, they made me do it." No one made you do it. You aren't going to die because you can't watch a show. You have free will and you decided to take something that rightfully does not belong to you. Admit it. You are a pirate. Don't try to sugar coat it. I lose respect for people who do.

[writerserenyty]

Pretty much this.

I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing to pirate things when it's impossible to get it within legal means. I pirate Jpop related things all the time when it's near impossible to get it in the US. But it's still piracy.

I feel for the people in countries where it's a lot harder to view media; I definitely have it easier, being in the US. But it's still piracy and IMO you should still own up to it.

[(Anonymous)]

Just because you are poor doesn't mean you can have other people's stuff. It would be a wonderful world if everyone could have what they want but it just doesn't work that way.

[(Anonymous)]

The thing is, it does work that way in practice. The existence of this thread is evidence enough.

[making_excuses]

Well I live in one of the richest countries on earth, we still get television shows seriously late (or not at all), because we have few citizens and they don't exactly earn anything by giving us the rights earlier...

It is about viewing figures, Norway is too small to make a difference, also our television companies can't pay as much as say the Canadians, because they don't earn as much...

It is getting better though, if I am not mistaken Game Of Thrones airs online in Norway like 12 hours after America...

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, if you're poor, you don't deserve anything. Not even the things you can affort and want to buy.

[(Anonymous)]

Third world does not mean POOR, assrag. It just means that other countries take us less seriously and we get shafted when it comes to things like corporate dealing. And for the record, my shelves are fucking FULL of legit media. I can and will pay, if somebody take the time to set up a damn cash register in the neighborhood.

[ariakas]

It does mean that, though, in practice. Hence, bootlegs and piracy.

[mechanosapience]

Well then clearly, it's your fault for choosing to live in the third world. Duh.

[pink_spiral]

This.

OP here

[(Anonymous)]

Actually I've worked in the broadcasting business, and I can tell you that at least in my country it's incredibly antiquated, and totally shitty for actually sticking with a series. Some great series have totally flopped here because of insane death slots, because they're instead trying to promote inferior but home-grown productions. Yup, those deals are made individually - but that doesn't mean you couldn't find other ways. For example, Netflix is still region-locked. So is BBC Iplayer. And it is because they're basically still pining for the golden age of TV where everyone would just go watch their fav show exactly when THEY want you to and it would be an event. But with digital TV, and globalization, those days are simply over. I know that here at least they didn't start planning for "the digital age" until they were absolutely forced to...and once they did they used it as an excuse to sell less TV for more money, not to actually facilitate viewing, on the contrary.

Re: OP here

[(Anonymous)]

SO MUCH THIS! Lot of anons up in here defending a system that is woefully outdated and just can't work with the world anymore. Corporate needs to get a clue. They're only screwing themselves otherwise.

Re: OP here

[luxshine]

This! I pay for Netflix in my country... all the shows and movies I want to see are Netflix USA only. Shows that are free in the websites of their producers, are region-locked. So, sorry, no. As soon as a payable option is available, I pay for it. If not, it's downloading for me.

Re: OP here

[ryttu3k]

Out of curiosity, are you Australian?

But yeah, pretty much. Take something like Doctor Who - here, the BBC and ABC have actually realised, hey, if you start showing a season that started in March in the UK in JUNE, all the fans will have already downloaded and seen it. Now, it airs on the same day, about sixteen hours after it airs in the UK. Consequentially, I actually now watch Doctor Who ON TV. Thus giving them ratings! Only having to avoid spoilers for a day or so is VASTLY preferable to having to avoid them for three months...

Re: OP here

[(Anonymous)]

Wait, you guys had to wait months? That's ridiculous. We do have to wait months/years, however that's because the shows/movies have to be dubbed in our language.
There's really no reason you'd have to wait that long.

Re: OP here

[ryttu3k]

Yeah, tell me about it! Thankfully, it's MUCH improved now.

Re: OP here

[ozfroggirl]

I still remember the early seasons of New!Who when we had to wait until June/July to see the Christmas specials. That always made me laugh. :D

Re: OP here

[(Anonymous)]

No, I live in Europe - and my country didn't even get the last few seasons of Doctor Who. We get Game of Thrones with more than half a year delay. Some less popular series (which I do like) get broadcast with 2 or more years delay, because they're sold to broadcast companies in "package deals" and don't get broadcast until it's convenient for the local broadcaster, and usually at horrible hours. Some series just don't get bought at all, or locally get cancelled mid-season, because it's not getting the same ratings as in America.

I couldn't use Netflix/IPlayer even if I paid for it - though I heard Netflix has plans to go international, so there's hope.

I'd have no trouble waiting a day, or even a week - but 1-2 years is just excessive.

Re: OP here

[ryttu3k]

Ooh, okay. That really sucks, I'm sorry :(

And dude, yeah, I'd love for Netflix to go international. I also really, really wish Hulu and other sites did the same... apparently, all six series of Star Trek are now available to watch online for free.

But only if you're American.

*headdesk*

Re: OP here

[ozfroggirl]

"I'd love for Netflix to go international. I also really, really wish Hulu and other sites did the same..."

http://hola.org/

[(Anonymous)]

And then there's cable, which doesn't work on a each-country bases at least in some cases.

And while some cable channels are starting to broadcast the shows only some days after the broadcast in the source country, other channels have the rights of a show and yet wait until the season it's over to broadcast it.
Why? If you know the reason, I would love to hear it.

[(Anonymous)]

And for the people in countries where no such negotiations have happened or even been brought to the table...?

No one owns the rights to many shows I watch where I live. We even have Hulu (and better than Hulu in the US in many respects--because Hulu+ here gives us absolutely zero commercials, woohoo!); it's just all we have are old sitcoms no one watches and B movies. I paid for it for a time but then it wasn't worth the price (it's also a bit more expensive than in the US).

Right now I pay for Amazon Prime and a VPN. Together that's close to $150 a year. I'm more than happy to pay for access, but I don't feel guilty in the least about violating terms to do so.