[ SECRET POST #2330 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2330 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Look, basically what you're arguing over here is what, exactly, constitutes stealing?

To you it means "taking something that doesn't belong to you," and whether or not the owner is, in fact, deprived of anything or not is immaterial. To others, it means "unfairly depriving someone of something that is rightfully theirs." Your emphasis is on whether someone's getting something for nothing, which you deem to be unacceptable no matter the circumstances, and theirs is on whether someone is losing anything or not, which to them is the only moral consideration.

Put another way, you're standing on principle, aguing from abstract ideas of right and wrong, whereas your opponents are pragmatists for whom only the practical outcome is relevant. They are not going to concede your point because they're proceeding from an entirely different set of values than you are.

[(Anonymous)]

There are also different views on what exactly something being illegal means: does that automatically make it morally wrong, or does it just mean that you get into trouble if you're caught doing it?

[(Anonymous)]

Anyone who conflates "it's illegal" with morality really isn't worth talking with though, to be entirely fair.

[(Anonymous)]

Exactly. You just have to look at the terrible things that have been legal and the innocuous things that have been illegal throughout history, and even now.