[ SECRET POST #2333 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2333 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I get what you mean, at least as of Sherlock s2 and DW s7 (DW s5, IMO, was still very Who-ish).

Hammy Who-esque supervillains running around in Sherlock and being a legit threat? Check. The Doctor being all about solving mysteries and keeping his mind occupied and staving off boredom rather than seeing the universe and meeting new people? Check. I could probably find more parallels as well.

It's funny -- the pre-Moffat Doctor was actually a lot more similar to ACD!Holmes than Moffat!Sherlock is to ACD!Holmes.

[(Anonymous)]

That's because in Moffat's most recent interviews in re: BBC!Sherlock, it turns out he and Gatiss are not ACD fans at all, and what they really wanted to do was remake the Basil Rathbone pastiches.

/soI'mstillalittlebitteryeah

[(Anonymous)]

... Well that explains a lot. Why didn't the bastard just bloody say so? At the start? I'd have been a lot less upset if I'd known that in advance.

[(Anonymous)]

Because he wanted to suck in the millions of viewers he ended up getting, but as soon as he eviscerated SCAN into the hot mess that "Belgravia" turned out to be, the jig was up, and they prolly knew they had to come clean to save some face? IDEK I have no idea what they were thinking, or IF they were even thinking to begin with.

Well, that, and "A Study in Pink" really was a rather good adaptation of STUD. But, yeah, the bait-and-switch was just the cherry on top after "Belgravia" (which I didn't like from the moment it aired -- I was Not Popular in the fandom for airing that opinion right after "Belgravia" did LOL).

[fenm]

I was Not Popular in the fandom for airing that opinion right after "Belgravia" did LOL).

Oh, me too, me too!
/Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaate.

[(Anonymous)]

Note how sniffy they were about Granada actually making episodes of an entire canon story.

And how frankly grudging they have been in the face of its canon faithfulness (and better Holmes) all along.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm pretty sure the Doctor was partially based on Holmes originally. There are SO many similarities.

[(Anonymous)]

No. The Doctor was initially supposed to be a time traveler on a children's educational show that taught kids about various historical periods.

[(Anonymous)]

While kidnapping teachers and occasionally threatening to space them, being generally cranky, and gradually becoming someone who cares for the lives that are in danger around him.

God I miss One.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

yep me too

[intrigueing]

I'd say it's actually very, very likely that Holmes (along with MANY other figures from literature and British culture) had some influence on the Doctor's character.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT That's what I meant :/ Not a conscious influence or anything. An archetype.

[(Anonymous)]

It's at least fact that the Master was invented to be the "Moriarty to the Doctor's Holmes". So even if the Doctor didn't begin as an idea for an 'alien Sherlock Holmes', he certainly evolved into one from Two onwards.

[intrigueing]

Noooo, I don't think that's remotely true either. He's not an "alien Sherlock Holmes" in any incarnation. Some similarities, definitely, (especially the practice of bringing along a "Watson" on all his investigations) but he doesn't have more similarities to Holmes than to several other very different characters and archetypes.

Also, when people call a character "the Moriarity to someone's Holmes" it doesn't mean that someone is like Holmes. It just means the Moriarity character is the other guy's archnemesis who is his equal and/or parallel to him in many ways.