[ SECRET POST #2343 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2343 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[not a repeat, was too big before]


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[(Anonymous)]

it's not, though, and i can tell that for two reasons.

first, because there are other names from the culture that i don't find abnormal or humorous. second, because there are names that are from my culture that i do find humorous. that says, to me, that it's not a matter of culture or foreign-ness.

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This is false equivalence. You don't have the cultural perspective necessary to even determine what these names mean in the context of their cultures. You end up thinking perfectly ordinary ethnic names are funny, simply because you lack that context. To you, they just sound like these other funny words. This is analogous to a non-English speaker who finds the name "Smith" funny because it sounds like something weird in their language, and not to, say, an English-speaker like me recognizing that a name like Cumberbatch is a rather unusual combination of two ordinary English words.

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so what you're saying is that I need to be able to justify the fact that something is funny to me, and that i have the cultural context possible to construct an apologia for the humor in benedict cumberbatch but that i can't give a rational account of the basis of humor in m night shymalan because it's from a different culture?

i don't know that i agree with that, simply because i don't think you need a reason or an account for why you find something funny. i don't think that's how humor works. sometimes things just sound funny.

of course they don't tend to sound funny after prolonged exhaustive discussions of whether or not things are funny - at this point, i don't find either m night shymalan or benedict cumberbatch funny - but my point is, i don't think the humor in 'm night shymalan' is necessarily derived from the foreign-ness or exotic-ness of the name. it can be, but it doesn't have to be. it's true that it's a name that's outside of my cultural context, but at the end of the day, sometimes things just sound funny, and i think that's the root of the humor.

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I think there is always a reason why someone finds something funny; people are just unwilling to examine it in depth because, exactly as you explained, it often kills the joke. And usually with humor, examination isn't necessary anyway because that's not the purpose of it, it's just meant to get a laugh.

However, when there is cultural baggage associated with the joke, you can't avoid examination because while something may legitimately be funny to you (humor is often subjective), it could also be legitimately hurtful to someone else. When there is potential for harm, it can't just be handwaived as "just a joke" anymore.