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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-06-02 03:28 pm

[ SECRET POST #2343 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2343 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[not a repeat, was too big before]


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Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 055 secrets from Secret Submission Post #335.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Re: problematic stuff you still love

(Anonymous) 2013-06-02 10:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I think disavowing stuff is actually incredibly hypocritical. I mean, if something is so irritatingly sexist/racist/whatever that you can't enjoy it anymore, that's one thing. But disavowing on principle? Like, "I can't believe I ever liked this offensive drivel"? Okay...because now we're completely perfect? The present day is not the end of history. The stuff today that we think has no problems at all...well, you just know that in the future, at least half of it will have people twenty years younger than us cringing at how problematic and full of horribly ignorant and prejudiced implications it is.

And I don't think that means that we're stupid idiots for not seeing it, or that the stuff we think is good is actually horrible drivel. It's just a product of its time, its time being now, just like the stuff made in the 1990s or before was a product of its time. Doesn't mean it's all bad, just that it was one in a line of a million rough drafts that are slowly getting better but aren't anywhere near the final draft yet.

So I guess...yeah, we see the flaws better now, and maybe we dislike those flaws enough to not want to revisit it, which is fine, but actually disavowing it and thinking the nice convenient explanation for why we liked it back then was "oh well, clearly, I was an idiot then, but I'm not an idiot now, I swear!"? I think that's actually kind of deceitful. You're throwing out something that probably had a lot of good things about it and that you enjoyed even though it was flawed because you're embarrassed about not noticing its flaws straight away, instead of looking at it and appreciating the good parts (if there are any) and by being aware of its flaws, thinking of ways to recreate those good things with fewer flaws.

Re: problematic stuff you still love

(Anonymous) 2013-06-02 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
tl;dr, but I'm pretty sure I agree wholeheartedly
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[personal profile] chardmonster 2013-06-02 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
HOW CAN YOU KNOW IF YOU DIDN'T READ IT