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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-06-10 06:34 pm

[ SECRET POST #2351 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2350 ⌋

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intrigueing: (doctor who: magic box)

Re: tl;dr ahoy

[personal profile] intrigueing 2013-06-11 03:45 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not a bad thing -- IN-UNIVERSE.

I'm just pissed that Moffat felt he just had to choose that backstory for her. Why not another story about a different shitty life that wasn't loaded with all the sexist crap that the anon above me details so well? Or at least, why not a story that involves subverting and critiquing the sexist overtones present in the shitty life he chose. Or at the very, very least, why not at least write some other female characters to provide a strong contrast to River's story?

At some point, a writer is responsible for the choices of character he makes, especially when he's writing a show that is filled with morals and messages and is aimed at kids. People know he's not writing a history of real life events, and they're going to wonder why he just had to choose to write stories that have those things in it.

That's really the crux of it -- Moffat chose to write her story that way, when he could have written something else. No one was forcing him to write those particular plot points. That's the main thing that really bothers me.

And yeah, I'm sure River has other things in her life besides the Doctor. Once again, from an in-universe perspective, that's not so bad. But we never see those things affect her personality or see her deciding to do those things (even if they do happen offscreen, like you say) for herself. We do, however, see her explicitly deciding to go into archeology to look for the Doctor, and we see her saying stuff like "I live for the days I see him" without having other major goals in her life discussed, and going to jail for him even though she didn't kill him, and making every aspect of her character that is seen onscreen into something caused by the Doctor.

None of these things are ~omg terrible~ all by themselves, but the pattern when they're all put together in the absence of anything to balance them out...yeah.