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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-06-11 06:57 pm

[ SECRET POST #2352 ]


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chardmonster: (Default)

[personal profile] chardmonster 2013-06-11 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
When did they die? Was it during Party Time or when the octopus saved the boat?
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[personal profile] sondheimmcgeek 2013-06-11 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
You're mixing up your animated Titanic musicals there. Besides, we all know it was when the moonbeam magic let them talk to dolphins.
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[personal profile] rbhudson 2013-06-12 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
YES! I'm happy to say I only know those movies thanks to the Guy with Glasses

(Anonymous) 2013-06-12 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
WELL THERE'S SOMETHIN' YOU SHOULD KNOW, SO I'M GONNA TELL YOU SO!

(Anonymous) 2013-06-11 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the most powerful part of the movie was about a fuckload of people dying tragically, but I think at times persons making movies assume people won't be able to enjoy it without a romance. It was about love on the Titanic.
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[personal profile] bored_bitch 2013-06-11 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I had way more interest in all the people dying, too.
Didn't really give much of a shit about the romance aspect.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-12 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
I dunno, it made a lot of sense in terms of showing off different parts of the ship and the tales of the real people without making it look like a documentary. The romance let us see first class and steerage, the social difference in class and so on; it let us follow Jack and Rose as they snuck around the ship and then eventually got trapped in 3rd class as the ship sank... it showed the unfairness of first class passengers having better access to lifeboats and so on.

I don't think James Cameron just chucked in a romance just to get more of an audience, I think he felt it was a good way to just get everything he wanted into the film just by following two characters.
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[personal profile] blunderbuss 2013-06-12 05:51 am (UTC)(link)
Exactly, it was a framing device and it worked very well.
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[personal profile] electromouse 2013-06-11 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I liked the part where Leo D escapes on the jet ski.
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[personal profile] loracarol 2013-06-11 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Is that the one where he crash-lands on an American shore, get's amnesia, joins the army, and falls in love with another unattainable rich-girl with a flower name? Or am I mixing things up again?
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[personal profile] electromouse 2013-06-12 04:21 am (UTC)(link)
No, that's the one! Then he hosts a party and stands there, watching outside the window while everyone else is having fun.
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[personal profile] loracarol 2013-06-12 06:47 am (UTC)(link)
Right! And he dies in the water, yes? Only then he has a dying dream where he wakes up on a beach, if I remember correctly. Or is it the other way around?

(Anonymous) 2013-06-11 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I think this movie shouldn't have been about love, in the sense of romance, but unfortunately it was. I mean, I get that maybe they were going for 'making it personal' and showing personal stories and personal loss to focus the disaster in the background, but I'm not sure a plot lifted straight from Romeo and Juliet was the right way to go about that? With the forbidden love and the diamond and the evil suitor and the class conflict, and all of that. It doesn't exactly say our focal pair were ordinary, that they were normal people like everyone else on the ship who lost their lives. It focuses the story on their personal drama, not on the grand tragedy of the disaster on the ship. Which in turn has the effect of rendering the background tragedy as ... background.

They basically smushed two separate stories together, the tragedy of the Titanic on one hand and the tragedy of forbidden love on the other, and it sort of cheapens both?

(Anonymous) 2013-06-12 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
I think if it focused solely on the class conflict, or some other theme that was actually closely tied to the Titanic tragedy IRL (because the lowest classes and the highest classes were put in close quarters on that trip...plus, the third-class passengers died in far greater proportion than the first-class), it would have worked. But the whole thing with the diamond and the crazy ex...yeah.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-11 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I've heard lots of people say this sort of thing and just... why does it have to be one or the other? I get the impression people like to feel superior by saying they felt nothing whatsoever for Jack and Rose.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-12 04:05 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, like I get not feeling anything for Jack or Rose or their drama, but the secret and what you said you've seen sounds like, "I AM SO MUCH BETTER THAN ALL THOSE GIRLY GIRLS WHO CRUSHED ON JACK. EW ROMANCE."
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[personal profile] rbhudson 2013-06-12 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
Andrews was my favorite character; I had such a crush on him

(Anonymous) 2013-06-12 03:51 am (UTC)(link)
Andrews adjusting the mantle clock? Weep.
Woman telling a bedtime story to her two kids in steerage? Weep.
Little old couple spooning right before they drown? You better believe I weep.
The violin quartet breaking up and rejoining to keep playing? I've pretty much lost my shit at this point.
Jack? Meh. *shrug*

Honestly, I watch the first half of this movie and move on. I don't think I've watched the second half in years.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-12 08:23 am (UTC)(link)
I prefer SOS Titanic and A Night to Remember to this film, despite the latter's impressive (for the time) CGI and costuming.