[ SECRET POST #2356 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2356 ⌋

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Comments

[harp]

Actually, I wish they'd just go create. Yes I know that there's no pleasing all the people all the time, but I'm thinking specifically of an LJ friend of mine who literally delights in walking down the DVD aisles and picking up every DVD to point out how "racist/sexist/ableist" it is.

I just want to say to them "Hey... it doesn't take much to criticize and whine. If absolutely nothing pleases you, if you're so full of indignation, if you're going to cry BAW they aren't representing X! and then when they do write X, cry BAW they represent X RONG! then how about you write/kickstart/encourage/look for/try to create something that does fit your standards? 'Cause all I'm seeing right now is someone who calls everything ____ist, and it makes me think that you believe you are the only one who is capable of producing something that isn't ___ist!"

(Then the really mean thought comes up "of course you won't. You don't want to do something, you don't want change, you don't want to help, you just want to complain and never risk your seat as the True Moral Authority by daring to make something someone might possibly call out as ____ist.")

[(Anonymous)]

This. But that would take EFFORT on their part. It's much easier to just bitch about something.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree...sort of. People really should at least think about how hard it is to create - but at the same time? The media really is horrible with how it represents some minority groups.

For example, there are a lot of times it seriously seems like they go 'Hmm, we need someone to be the killer. I know! Let's make it someone with -insert whatever page they happened to land on in the DSM-!' Well over halve the time when they do write a mental illness they write the symptoms amazingly off - which in turn means that people are going to start assuming the wrong things about it. That's something worth criticizing [imo], even though I don't write characters mental illnesses.

So...I think there is a time and place where they might very well have a point, but it does get a bit much when they do it with every damn movie.

*Admittedly, I'm biased since I actually have a mental illness that has received this treatment more than once, and yeah. I've been hit with the 'Well on X they said...' crap as well.

tl;dr: I agree they sound like they'er going over the top, but I think there's a time and a place where criticizing that is needed, even if the critic doesn't 'create'.

[aubry]

IA. Though I'll add, in my experience, the most gloriously joyful fannish spaces are the ones where a high level of critical awareness and creative enthusiasm come together and explode in clever fanwork.

I've never stood by the idea that there's an obligation on fen to go and create something original instead - whether that line's coming from inside or outside fandom. But creating fanfic and fanart and vids an manips and RPs to actively explore media that's being sold to them as a finished product? Fuck yeah, fandom!