[ SECRET POST #2356 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2356 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 06 pages, 134 secrets from Secret Submission Post #336.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 2 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 1 - repeat ].
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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think it is fanwank at all to say Charles dicked with her mind to produce the result most favorable to him. Not since he'd spent the film dicking with peoples mind's in order to produce the results most favorable to him. In the business we call that well set up. In SJW speak that sadly is called "loophole to dive through so you can proclaim crap and show how right on you are about SJW stuff and finally found something that you can lever your issues into".

In short. You are talking bullshit.

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

In SJW speak that sadly is called "loophole to dive through so you can proclaim crap and show how right on you are about SJW stuff and finally found something that you can lever your issues into".

AYRT

Whoops, you seem to have splooged your own issues all over this nice discussion. How uncouth of you!

Re: the substantive part of your comment, you're grasping at straws if you think that the theory of an implanted suggestion as explanation for Moira's behavior is "well set up." That scenario's a level of complexity far above Charles's other feats, which, despite being less complex, tend to be telegraphed to the viewer by Charles's putting his fingers to his temple and/or by cutting rapidly between Charles and the person he's affecting telepathically. (i.e. They're made really fucking obvious.) If the film wanted to imply that not only Moira's amnesia (which is similarly telegraphed as having been effected by Charles) but also that one OOC line was the result of telepathic tampering, then it should've made that at least as clear as it does those other events.

At a bare minimum, Charles should've demonstrated his ability to implant a delayed telepathic suggestion earlier in the film, making it into one of his signature moves, so to speak. In the absence of any of those narrative techniques: sorry, that theory's total fanwank.

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

SA

Oh, and the other thing this theory lacks is sufficient in-text rationale for Charles's implanting such a telepathic suggestion. No doubt Charles could implant such a suggestion if he wanted to (perhaps after a bit of practice), but why would he want to gratuitously damage the career of one of his friends like that? He's already protected the X-Men by removing her memories; forcing her to say that ridiculous line, as well, would be pointless.

You could fanwank the already fanwanked theory to try to create a plausible justification for Charles wanting to do such a thing, but that only brings us back to the fact that this film is not that subtle. (Though, really, your average pretentious arthouse flick isn't as subtle as the layers of hidden motivations I've detailed here.) If any of this were what the film intended to convey, it would've shown it.