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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-06-16 03:30 pm

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(Anonymous) 2013-06-16 07:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Pretty sure that's why people are butthurt. They want to see the fantasy so they can live vicariously.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-16 07:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree! I actually think it's horribly unrealistic when everyone in a story pairs off with each other (e.g., Harry Potter). Your first love isn't always your forever soulmate love, not matter what TV says. Nice to see examples that don't always follow that trope.
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[personal profile] iceyred 2013-06-16 07:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Same. I hate it when character met their Wan Twu Wuv at eighteen or younger.

The people I knew who got married at 18 were divorced a year later.
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[personal profile] intrigueing 2013-06-16 08:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I love it when people who met the person they later got married happily to when they were young. I also love it when they think they're going to be happy forever and it doesn't work out, or when people don't meet the person they later got married happily to for a long time. I have read great examples of both types of couples.

On the other hand, in some stories marrying your childhood sweetheart can be written as boring, forced, and unrealistic. And in some stories, your childhood sweetheart not working out can come across as obnoxious, aggressively cynical, and condescending or offensive towards people who did meet a person they were happy with early.

It entirely depends on whether the relationship is written believably and interestingly or feels forced by a narrow-minded agenda of the author's.

I really don't get why everyone's obliged to have one type of story they like and therefore automatically dislike the opposite.

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(Anonymous) 2013-06-16 09:52 pm (UTC)(link)
My partner's bro got married at 18. They're dedicated Christians. She ran off with some dude interstate for a while. Now they've got 3 neurotic kids, she's medicated up to the hilt, and he's an ape. (But their relationship is sooo much more important, valid and romantic than my 14 year queer one with his sister and our kid!)

I had a friend in school whose parents were childhood sweethearts. She insisted it all turned out great, and statistically it must happen from time to time!

(Anonymous) 2013-06-17 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
And I know multiple people who married the person they were into when they were in middle school and have managed to stay together and be happy well into middle age.

Personal experience doesn't mean a goddamn thing, and if you had half a brain in that empty little head of yours, you'd realize that.
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[personal profile] sootyowl 2013-06-16 07:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I liked them together and was sad when they weren't endgame as a kid. But as an adult, I think it was realistic and I'm glad they didn't.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-16 07:52 pm (UTC)(link)
WONDER YEARS SECRET

I agree with you OP I liked the ending too.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-16 07:56 pm (UTC)(link)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wonder_Years

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[personal profile] lionessvalenti 2013-06-16 08:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I was always just happy that they remained friends. I would have been sad if it had ended with "and I never saw Winnie again". THAT would have been disappointing.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-16 08:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Like the episode "Heart on a chain" of Eerie Indiana
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[personal profile] intrigueing 2013-06-16 08:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't unilaterally dislike long-lasting childhood romances as a rule, but in The Wonder Years, IA that the twist of them not being endgame made a much better ending for that story. Having them get married and stay together would have just felt kind of...unearned, and not really thematically appropriate for that particular show.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-16 08:48 pm (UTC)(link)
The ending always made me sad not because of how it ended, but that it ended and no one I knew cared :(

I agree about it being realistic. It was a bit sad but oh so perfect.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-16 09:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the ending worked for the show and how their relationship was portrayed and I was glad it ended that way, but I don't think it's all that unrealistic for people who met young to end up together in real life. Probably happens more than people like to pretend. But as someone said above when it comes to fiction it all boils down to writing for me more than the actual trope used.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-16 09:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Where they boyfriend/girlfriend or just friends?

My childhood BFF was of the opposite sex and he and I did not end up as romantic partners at any point and I always get a little weirded out when people say it would have been cute if we ended up together. He was like a brother to me, so... no. Ew.

Very young romance does occasionally last. I do know two couples in their 30s who got together when they were maybe ~15/16/17 and are still together now, but that's only two out of all of the couples and former couples I've ever known. Every dating couple I knew my senior year of high school had broken up within one year of graduation. None of my grandparents even met each other until they were over 20. I'm not opposed to the occasional childhood-sweetheards-stay-together-as-adults, but I think it's over-represented in fiction for sake of simplicity.

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spoiler for The Wonder Years

[personal profile] transcriptanon 2013-06-16 09:50 pm (UTC)(link)
[Picture is of a young boy named Kevin and a young girl named Winnie when they were children sitting on a large rock in a place with dirt and vegetation. They are characters from the TV series "The Wonder Years".]

I don't get why everyone's so butthurt about them not ending up together. I thought it made them more realistic.
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[personal profile] vongroovy 2013-06-16 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
That's one of my favourite endings ever. Even as a kid watching it, I felt it was the most realistic way their relationship could have gone. I've never liked childhood sweethearts ending up together forever - there's just so many people in the world to meet after you get out of school, and you can change so much, especially from teens to adulthood, that I can't imagine sticking with one person you met before you'd really come into your own, I guess. Probably doesn't help that the one couple I knew who were childhood sweethearts were unbelievably insufferable about it.

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[personal profile] blitzwing 2013-06-16 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Her hands are kind of terrifying.
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[personal profile] al28894 2013-06-17 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
At the risk of over-generalizing, reality is BORING. It's sad, it's real and there might not be the gold pot at the end of the rainbow.

Of course, there are huge variables to this depending on the person but I think this is why people invented escapist fiction.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-17 02:18 am (UTC)(link)
Kinda reminds me of Joey and Caitlin from Degrassi Junior High/Degrassi High. They never ended up together. I thought it worked well. Not every TV couple is a Zack and Kelly/Cory and Topanga/Sabrina and Harvey.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-17 02:49 am (UTC)(link)
I have nothing to add to this, other than I LOVE The Wonder Years.
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[personal profile] wauwy 2013-06-17 10:41 am (UTC)(link)
Seems like you don't truly fathom the marrow-deep phenomenon that is the OTP.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-17 12:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Agreed! Especially after rewatching that show as an adult, those two were awful for each other by the time they'd grown up. All they did was argue and hold each other back.