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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-06-17 06:50 pm

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Re: Misandry... Oh dear.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-18 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
Well, with respect to the military: yes, women are discouraged from joining in the U.S., and that's happening right now.

If you want a more tangible milemarker for that, though, it wasn't until 2010 that women were allowed to serve on submarines. So...it's there.

Re: Misandry... Oh dear.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-18 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
Except that's not true. There were limitations in place for certain fields that disallowed women from doing particular jobs. And every single last one of them is gone now. And as shitty as those things were, they weren't the same as discouraging or disallowing women to join the military. Also, every branch has had some combat or hazard duty MOSs open to women since at least 1995, which is when I joined.

Re: Misandry... Oh dear.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-18 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
And no, women are discouraged from joining the military even today.

From 2012, http://www.livescience.com/18437-women-military-sexist.html, "

Women are just as capable, physically and mentally, as men in the military, scientists say.
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This article was updated at 2:11 pm EST Feb. 13

The military is opening up jobs for women thanks to eased regulations announced Thursday (Feb. 9), but Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum's opposition to women in direct combat may help reveal the reasons women haven't been allowed on the front lines. The belief, however, contains more myth than science, say sociologists and others who study women in the military.

The truth is, some women are capable, both physically and mentally, of performing admirably on the front lines, just like some men are, Ryan Kelty, a sociologist specializing in the military from Washington College, told LiveScience. Women are currently serving in many positions that put them in harm's way already, Kelty said.

"They can serve as transportation personnel. They can be military police," Kelty said. "They might not be the ones knocking in the door, but they are standing right next to the man who is. Women can do those jobs and they can do them well."

Changes to policy

In an effort to reduce gender-based restrictions on service, the Department of Defense (DoD) announced last week that it would open up 14,000 military jobs to women. Throughout the military, about 80 percent of jobs are open to women currently, but this varies significantly depending on the branch: The Air Force has 99 percent of positions open to women, but the Army has only 69 percent.

The changes include eliminating the"co-localization" rule, which keeps women out of positions localized with direct combat units. Eliminating the policy opens up more than 13,000 positions and even added a few new specialties, such as tank mechanic. The other big change includes opening up more than 1,000 positions at the battalion level (group of about 800 military personnel) to women in specialties such as intelligence and communications. [The History of Human Aggression]

"This report is a start," Rep. Loretta Sanchez (D-Calif.) said in a statement. "Unfortunately, the conclusions of this report do not go far enough. I am very disappointed," Sanchez said, adding that the new openings are essentially, "a pilot program, which I believe is ridiculous." As a member of the House Armed Services Committee,Sanchez is fighting for gender equality in the military both on and off the battlefield.

Why gender differences

Currently women make up nearly 15 percent of the nation's 1.5 million active duty military personnel, pointing to the fact that gender equality in the military has come a long way since the '70s, when North Dakota was off limits because "it was too cold," said Vee Penrod, the deputy assistant undersecretary of defense for military personnel. Still, more than 280,000 service positions had remained closed to women."

And, "According to her research, said Helen Benedict, a professor at the Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism and author of the book The Lonely Soldier: The Private War of Women Serving in Iraq, 1 in 3 women in the U.S. military is raped by another service member.
Mickiela Montoya, one of the female Iraq veterans Benedict interviewed for the book, explained her experience of men’s treatment of women in the military: “There are three things they’ll let you be: A bitch, a ho or a dyke. You’re a bitch if you won’t sleep with them; you’re a ho if you have only one boyfriend; and you’re a dyke if you don’t like them.” from http://www.psmag.com/culture/military-gender-roles-still-thorny-problem-30079/

I don't know about you, but that really makes me want to join the military--it's very encouraging to see that that I've a 1 in 3 chance of being raped, being treated like a piece of trash, etc.

"The Senate Armed Services Committee held hearings on Tuesday into the epidemic of rape in the armed forces. Rape in the military is at a horrific level, and while the military has been arguing that it can clean up its act, the numbers belie that argument. In 2012 alone, there were 26,000 sexual assaults in the US armed forces, numbers that are an outrage to pretty much any thinking person.
Fortunately for senior military officials, the hearing was not just attended by thinking people. Senate Republicans showed up as well. And their responses to the spate of sexual assaults ranged from clueless to downright despicable." from http://truth-out.org/opinion/item/16812-the-bad-the-worse-and-the-horrible-on-rape-in-the-military

I could go on, but I strongly suggest getting your head out of the sand and paying attention to what is going on around you and in society.