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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-06-18 06:48 pm

[ SECRET POST #2359 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2359 ⌋

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tabaqui: (Default)

Re: No

[personal profile] tabaqui 2013-06-19 02:25 am (UTC)(link)
They weren't *talking* to people of power/institutions. They were talking among themselves. They're not interacting with people who speak English on a daily basis, or maybe even at all. They're not explaining their situation to people who speak English. The one boy who was chosen by Unicef to speak at a very large conference in New Delhi had a translator and used *no English at all*.

And like i said, it's not even so much the use of English (because i understand that other languages creep in all the time), but the use of English words that are terribly mundane. Having them say 'Google' or 'internet' or something in English would make sense. A random number out of hundreds of numbers is just baffling.

Re: No

(Anonymous) 2013-06-19 02:48 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

My previous comment was a bit...over-heated, Sorry. I was just a little frustrated at the assumptions being made in this thread. I think due to my frustration I was a bit unclear.

Allow me to clarify: I know they're not doing it for a specific reason. That's not what I mean. I mean that that's how they naturally. They talk that way without thinking, because that's how they've always talked. It just IS. Yeah, they do use an English word for a number. Why? Because that's the way they talk. There's no rule, it just kinda is. They don't analyze it first, it's just habit. The frequency with which people use English words varies depending on how fluent they are in English and where they live (especially whether they live in the city vs rural areas), but it is just simply a part of how talking happens in India.

The stuff I said about power and English speakers was meant as an explanation of HOW these habits came about. But I seriously doubt many individual people think "okay, I'm going to make sure to use some English words now with this English-speaking person". Apologies if I implied otherwise! I meant that those are the reasons for why the practice exists in the first place. But yes, Hindi-speaking people in India talk *among themselves* with random English words thrown in all the time. Not because it serves any purpose, just because that's the way they talk. Maybe it's baffling to an English speaker, but it's the norm there.

In fact, the boy you mentioned who talked without using one word of English is very likely the person who is being *most* conscious of and deliberate with his word choice.
tabaqui: (Default)

Re: No

[personal profile] tabaqui 2013-06-19 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
No worries. The comment you replied to before mine was a bit scathing in tone, so i understand your desire to be *very* clear.

I appreciate your explaining it. It's interesting and, yeah, it's odd to me. Not bad or stupid, just different.

The boy was adorable and spoke *so fast*, heh. He would just rattle off all these sentences without seeming to pause for breath.

Re: No

(Anonymous) 2013-06-19 02:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Boy I sure am glad the cultural impositions white people have left on my culture and people are just discarded at the door when I'm with my own kind. Oh wait