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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-06-19 07:08 pm

[ SECRET POST #2360 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2360 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2013-06-19 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I haven't heard this, but I have to admit I feel the same way about people using yaoi, etc. for non-Japanese fandoms instead of slash and its variations.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-19 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought that yaoi and slash weren't quite the same thing though? They cater to different tropes and stuff like that?

(Anonymous) 2013-06-19 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know for sure, and I don't really care. IMO, it still sounds ridiculous and pretentious and vaguely appropriative (is that a word??) when it's used in reference to, say a Sherlock/John fic written by an American author who's never even traveled out of the country let alone spent any real time learning about Japanese culture, which is just one actual example of where I've seen it.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-20 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
Yes. I'm.............................agreeing with you?

Appropriative is a word.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-20 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
If you're the same anon as above, then we're just miscommunicating. It seemed like you weren't agreeing because you thought it is being/should be used in such contexts to get a specific meaning/trope across. (Which even then I'd hate it - I feel slash is a very encompassing term and if authors want to clarify more in the tags/warnings/whatever, go for it).

But glad someone agrees with me! And that I'm not making up words!

(Anonymous) 2013-06-20 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
I like it when authors use "yaoi" to describe their own fics. It makes it easy to know what not to read.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-20 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
Ha! Good point.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-20 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
But some people do this:

"Warning: contains BL/yaoi/slash/gay men"

(Anonymous) 2013-06-20 02:28 am (UTC)(link)
I take the fact that they feel they have to warn me as the warning and stay away.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-20 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
Except, if it's fic for an anime/manga series and the pairing is not canon, that is exactly what their fic is.

This comment makes me think you don't know what 'yaoi' is.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-20 02:26 am (UTC)(link)
No, I think we just have different ideas of what yaoi means.

Believe me, I know what yaoi is. I go through phases where I read a shitton of yaoi manga, for some godawful reason. I tend to think of it as its own thing, with its own set of (kind of terrible) tropes, rather than just synonymous with "m/m smut".

(Anonymous) 2013-06-20 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
Or just as bad: people who use 'yaoi' when they mean 'BL'.