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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-06-19 07:08 pm

[ SECRET POST #2360 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2360 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2013-06-20 11:33 am (UTC)(link)
OMG THIS THIS THIS. FINALLY SOMEONE ELSE HAS SAID IT.

This is what confuses me so much about a lot of gender talk nowadays. It's almost like if you are biologically female, but you like looking stereotypically 'masculine', suddenly you are actually a boy? To me, it just doesn't work like that. That's just conforming even more strictly to society's gender roles and expectations, because now you're actually letting society's stereotypes dictate whether you are male or female.

Why can't a person just be a female who likes to look/act masculine? Or a male who likes to appear very feminine? I honestly don't get it. I mean, just do what you want, you don't need to label yourself so heavily!

(Not saying that genuine transgender/transsexual people don't exist, I totally realise that is a legitimate thing.)

(Anonymous) 2013-06-20 05:58 pm (UTC)(link)
this is why the whole "genderqueer" concept makes me so angry, because it's based on gender essentialism and just reinforces it further rather than goes against it like people claim. you can be a woman who likes having short hair and dresses in a masculine fashion and has "male" hobbies and still identify as female. likewise, doing all of those things doesn't suddenly NOT make you female.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-20 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
But that's the thing - identity. One of my closest friends is genderqueer, and zie does not identify solely as male or solely as female. Zie has dysphoria, as well. Gender identity and gender presentation are two very different things - for instance, my gender presentation is pretty masculine, but my identity is female and has never been anything but that. But for my friend, zir presentation is androgynous-to-masculine and zir identity is also somewhere in between - zie doesn't identify as female, zie doesn't identify as male.

It's not the presentation that says whether you're genderqueer or not. It's ENTIRELY down to identity.