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fandomsecrets2013-06-20 06:56 pm
[ SECRET POST #2361 ]
⌈ Secret Post #2361 ⌋
Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.
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[Hetalia]
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[Charles Coulson (and indirectly, Avengers)]
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[No. 6]
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[Leto Brothers]
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[Harry Potter]
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[Xiaolin Showdown/Xiaolin Chronicles]
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["Zombies Took My Daughter"]
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[Wolf's Rain]
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[The Croods]
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[Phineas and Ferb]
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[Ouran High School Host Club]
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[Hetalia]
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[The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug]
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[Starsky and Hutch]
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[Once Upon a Time]
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[Hannibal]
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[Hannibal]
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[Ouran High School Host Club]
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(Anonymous) 2013-06-20 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)I kind of want to say something because Tamaki is one of my favorite characters ever, but it seems your issues with him are rather... personal.
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(Anonymous) 2013-06-20 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)Okay, I suppose you sound a little angry. XD
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I hate Tamaki more than any other character in the history of everything because he reminds me of my father and I will never stop being furious and disgusted with TamaHaru.
It's not that I have daddy issues or anything; it's just that, knowing someone like this in real life, this kind of infantile behavior, hero complex (trying to help everyone down to the last random stranger), having no boundaries, expecting things to go the way you want them to, and being totally oblivious to the opinions of people around you, even with the best of intentions, is not cute or charming or funny to me. At all. And it pisses me off to see those traits romanticized.
Also even if Tamaki and my father were nothing alike I would still hate TamaHaru because any relationship where one character reminds the other of their dad/mom/parental unit of any kind is an enormous personal squick of mine.
Every time I think of this character I hate him and TamaHaru more to the point that it has literally ruined a show I used to love. I can't even think about Ouran without getting angry.
Secret because believe me, I know exactly how this sounds.
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It's been years since I watched this and I didn't watch all the episodes, though, so I'm not sure what the "because any relationship where one character reminds the other of their dad/mom/parental unit of any kind" refers to.
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(Anonymous) 2013-06-21 02:13 am (UTC)(link)A very strong parallel is drawn between Tamaki and Ranka, Haruhi's father.
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(Anonymous) 2013-06-21 12:34 am (UTC)(link)IA that the Tamaki/Haruhi relationship is kind of weird and awkward with him genuinely thinking he was like a father to her.
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And having a spotty family history with father figures, he was probably also eager to prove that positive fatherly love exists in the universe- which may be why he was slow to realize his true feelings/change the label on them.
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(Anonymous) 2013-06-21 01:20 am (UTC)(link)Well, it's not like I went into the show knowing how much Tamaki would remind me of my father, nor how much it would romanticize his most cringe-worthy traits, nor that they would draw such a strong parallel between Tamaki and Haruhi's dad. And I loved all the other characters and aside from Tamaki the show's sense of humor was comedy gold for me.
But you know how when you watch something, you're not analyzing it, just absorbing it and having gut-punch reactions? As I watched it, Tamaki skeeved me out but I couldn't fully elaborate why; as I got more distance from the show and took time to think about it, I kept hitting upon more and more reasons that everything surrounding his character and how he was presented just pissed me off. And it feels like the entire fandom treats him like he's this ~PRINCE CHARMING~ and the perfect human being and worst of all the ~BEST DADDY~ and that just makes me angrier.
And I know I have no right to piss and moan about what makes other people happy, and I don't "publicly" want to anyway because I know I'd get harassed and dog-piled, but between brooding about it more over time and feeling really alienated by the fandom, the negativity just kept building until Ouran wasn't fun for me anymore.
Which is sad, but what can you do. =/
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(Anonymous) 2013-06-21 01:02 am (UTC)(link)Kyoya/ Haruhi was my OTP instead.
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(Anonymous) 2013-06-21 01:32 am (UTC)(link)Kyouya/Haruhi or Mori/Haruhi for me. I'd also take Kyouya/Tamaki, Mori/Kasanoda, Kaoru/Kyouya or Hikaru/Haruhi.
Basically, I ship any combination of Kyouya, Haruhi or Mori with anyone who looks like they'd work.
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(Anonymous) 2013-06-21 01:16 am (UTC)(link)I don't know. It just felt like it would have been so much better if it hadn't tried so hard to drive itself into being such a shitty harem. I didn't like where it took any character's personality.
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(Anonymous) 2013-06-21 03:53 am (UTC)(link)I also only watched the anime, I heard he's a little too committed to the "father" act in the manga. That kinda strikes me as creepy or not quite well-adjusted.
And while my heart flutters like a bird at the TamaHaru scenes in the anime, I would not mind a little Tamaki/Kyouya in my life... *goes to Google*
(It's also strangely enough one of the only times that I can actually enjoy one of Vic Mangina's performances, so there's that too I guess.)
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Such that he couldn't actually recognize the different kinds of affection or even differentiate between romantic or parental affection?
I've heard this is shown more in-depth in the manga, while the anime just hints it with that marriage Tamaki was essentially forced into.
EDIT: But yeah, there's no doubt his behaviour in and of itself is problematic and there were at least two incidents that I would have found ridiculously unsettling in real life.
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(Anonymous) 2013-06-22 12:27 pm (UTC)(link)…And I didn't know that about Tamaharu. Gross.
Although I have an incest squick in general so I also find the twincest pair just…stupid and icky rather than cute or hot or funny. Bleh.