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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-06-22 03:41 pm

[ SECRET POST #2363 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2363 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2013-06-22 09:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I disagree. If there are romantic scenes, even of canon pairings, it is no longer gen. Canon pairings aren't any more special than fanon pairings. Offhand mentions of fanon pairings would still be gen as well. The issue is when we have romantic scenes between characters, at which point it is no longer a gen fic.
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[personal profile] duaedesigns 2013-06-22 09:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Bit of a bad example, I could see just canon pairings existing being fine. You don't have to explicitly say James and Lily Potter were never together and no one was ever together and everyone hatches out of cabbage patches in an utterly asexual way. But probably no need to do anything focusing on them either.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-22 09:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I think any pairing existing is just fine, even if it is fanon. If, for example, there is an offhand mention of Remus and Sirius being involved but you don't actually see them kissing or going on dates or whatever, then I think that is just as gen as mentioning James and Lily.

By the same token, I think that if you have a scene where James and Lily are on a date, then your fic is no longer gen even though the pairing is canon.
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[personal profile] duaedesigns 2013-06-22 09:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, but what if you absolutely hate Siris/Remus? If you hate a canon pairing, well, at least it's canon and you can't fuss at the author for including it, but fanon shipping has no need to be included. As soon as you mention it being in there, it's shipping. You're saying "In this fic universe, I ship this" and that's not gen.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-22 09:48 pm (UTC)(link)
The thing is, though, fanfic is fanfic. Fanfic isn't canon. The whole point is speculation, not just rehashing canon. Those differences may be in plot, but they also may be in pairing. So the mention of any pairing is equally shipping. In fanfic, all pairings are on an equal ground.
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[personal profile] duaedesigns 2013-06-22 09:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Fanfic by definition is based on a canon though, to a greater or lesser degree, and in general everything is assumed to align with canon unless stated otherwise.

I mean, imagine reading along a HP fic and then at the very end for no reason the author note says "Oh, btw, I always saw Lily getting together with Remus, not James! So in this Remus was his father."

So no, not all pairings are on equal ground. Harry being Lily and Remus' son instead of James' son is something you would not automatically assume unless stated otherwise.