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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-06-22 03:41 pm

[ SECRET POST #2363 ]


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(Anonymous) 2013-06-22 09:16 pm (UTC)(link)
The main problem with it is that it's built around milking people for everything that they're worth financially. They have someone basically lead you through basic meditation (which feels pretty damn good, but...it'd feel good if you just taught yourself to do it, too), tell you that it's a religious experience, and then tell you that the only way to keep experiencing it is to...pay them to lead you through it some more and teach you the MYSTERRIIEEEESS. As time goes on, they demand that more and more of your assets be given over to them. They've literally bankrupted people. Also, if you want to leave, they will try to prevent you from doing so.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-23 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
.....I....don't think it's quite....meditation? I mean, look at this: https://secure.flickr.com/photos/simkatu/62325053/

Also Harlan Ellison and (??) another author, I forget who, were on one of the SF radio shows back in the late '90s/early 2000s saying they knew Elron back when, and he'd basically gotten the idea to start a religion based on science fiction at a room party at one of the conventions they were all attending. I think you can still find the audio on the 'net somewhere.

Anonymous/Why We Protest published "donors" lists tho' (they still should have them up I think) from the "official" magazines and it's *way* more than even Christian tithing, there are people who have paid them up to hundreds of thousands of dollars in one shot.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-23 02:54 am (UTC)(link)
And somewhere along the way, if you can't convert all your friends and family to Scientology, they will demand that you cut yourself off from all of them. They take your money, they take your family, they take your friends, and then they may persuade your minor children to sign billion year contracts of servitude.

Total cult.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-24 08:19 am (UTC)(link)
Cutting off the family? Yeah that part isn't true. My mother's family is sadly full of Scientologists, but we're all very close despite that. We just had a lovely family reunion last summer.

Also having children sign contracts for extended servitude? You're talking about SeaOrg which mostly has young members because you have to be debt free to join. My cousins were both a part of that for a while and one left two years ago with no problem. He's not even in the religion anymore and he still spends tons of time with his family.

However, if any of us spoke out against Scientology in public and their "church" found out about it THEN they wouldn't be allowed to talk to me anymore.

So you know, that's not really much better, but it's something.

I mean...I despise Scientology, because it takes advantage of the people I love. But those people aren't just mindless cult drones. It's because the church behaves so "normally" in a lot of respects that it gets away with so much. So yes, it is a cult, but it's not like a cult you see on a TV drama or the news. It's more like a crappy self-help seminar that never ends. If that makes sense.

(Sorry I responded to you specifically. To be honest if you were completely wrong I wouldn't have but you were just a little bit right so I wanted to explain.)