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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-06-25 06:38 pm

[ SECRET POST #2366 ]


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[personal profile] elephantinegrace 2013-06-25 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)
As far as I'm concerned, if you liked a certain couple of episodes, you can call yourself a fan. I mean, I'm not that big a fan of the show after Tenant and Davies left, either, (although I still tune in simply because it's like delicious delicious cocaine that I just can't quit).
Edited 2013-06-25 22:50 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2013-06-25 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
You are a Doctor Who fan if you like Doctor Who. Even if you only like the RTD era, that's still five years, and that's more show than plenty of entire fandoms do. So long as you don't hate on things in their spaces, you're fine.

With that said, a suggestion? Try Classic Who. It's more of Doctor Who, but without feeling like the other Doctor replaced Ten. Then, if you like the show without him, give Eleven a go. My recommendation would be Five- Tennant took a lot of inspiration from him, and the tones are pretty similar in some places.

Do watch End of Time, though. It's good. (And, if you need motivation to do a bit of Eleven, you'll need it to understand the Fiftieth Anniversary special coming up, which Tennant is starring in. So you get more Ten that way.)

(Anonymous) 2013-06-25 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I would NOT recommend watching Classic Who as an experiment to see if you like the show without Ten. The reboot of the series is completely, totally different, and you shouldn't use the old show (which is brilliant and I do love) to compare with the new in any way. This plan is doomed to fail.

Also End of Time is terrible, but it's worth watching just to get you on to the Eleventh, OP. :p If that's something you want to do. You shouldn't feel any pressure to keep watching.
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[personal profile] intrigueing 2013-06-25 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I think watching Classic Who is a perfectly fine idea? Personally, watching Classic Who after watching New Who and comparing them enhanced my appreciation of both drastically.

And watching Classic Who after only seeing Ten could be a lot easier, since it'll feel more like you're watching a prequel, or watching Ten's backstory. And that, combined with the very different style of writing and filming that screams "totally different era!", might make it easier to accept. Whereas watching Eleven right off the bat might feel more like "but this guy isn't my Doctor and it's different now >:(" which is a lot less easy to watch than "backstory yay!"

But more than Classic Who, I really really recommend watching Nine's season. Not only does it have all the same aesthetics and most of the same characters and themes as Ten's era, it provides a lot of really important character development that enriches Ten's era a lot.
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[personal profile] cadremage 2013-06-26 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
I am thrilled to come across people who do not like End of Time, so HELLO TO YOU ANON!

(Anonymous) 2013-06-26 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
Echoing that OP shouldn't watch End of Time. It wasn't just that it was bad, it was also just a painfully bad sendoff. Ten was so OOC during the regenerations scene and while I understand what they were going for on an intellectual level, I will never be able to watch it without squirming in discomfort at just how painfully bad, OTT, and OOC it turned out. Plus the whole thing about radiation not being a problem for Time Lords...

(Anonymous) 2013-06-26 01:56 am (UTC)(link)
Ten's sendoff was so completely and 100% Ten. It wasn't remotely OOC. Over the top maybe, but OOC? Hell no.
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[personal profile] cadremage 2013-06-26 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
Although I don't really like End of Time, I have to agree with you here. Ten was angsty and melodramatic, and...that's exactly what his sendoff was. It fit him rather well from my perspective.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-25 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
It doesn't matter what anyone calls you or anything else. You like the show, that's enough. This whole 'fan' definition is stupid anyway. Enjoy what you enjoy!

Personally, I fell in love with Big Ears and it took me ages to like Tennant! Now I like him, and don't like the new guy. Ah...but I still enjoy the show. I think I'm just slow to warm up to the new actors. :)

I found this show at a very important point in my life, when I was really depressed, and it helped me SO MUCH. I will always have a fond spot for Dr. Who even if I'm not a "true" fan. Which, by the way, I don't care. I'm just saying. That doesn't really matter very much. If you spend your life becoming a true fan of anything, you might miss a lot of other things in the process. So take what works for you and don't worry about the rest. :)

(Anonymous) 2013-06-25 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think it's a huge problem to only like one era of Doctor Who. Not everyone is okay with watching a series with a rotating cast, and even people who are okay with it tend to have their preferences of which cast or show runner they like best.

I mean if Who fans get bitchy with you about it, just ask them if they'd be okay with their favorite character on another show suddenly being killed and replaced by someone who took their name, they probably wouldn't be okay with it at all. We accept it on Who because it's tradition and it helps with the longevity of the show.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-26 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
As a Doctor Who fan (who loves all the Doctors, and the concept of regeneration), I had a terrible experience of that particular mental double-standard the first time I watched the series Due South. I rented out the entire series on DVD having no knowledge of potential spoilers, and when one of the two main characters was suddenly replaced (literally replaced, the in-universe explanation was that the first character had gone undercover in the Mafia and that Character B had taken on Character A's identity to protect the cover), I was like "WHAT MIND FUCKERY IS THIS". Despite the fact that I had loved (and still do) the series up to that point I couldn't watch more than one episode past that point.

To this day I still haven't watched more than two or three of the episodes with the second actor. It gave me a lot of perspective on people in OP's position in the Doctor Who fandom.

/TL;DR Am a Doctor Who fan, who flipped when a character got replaced on another show. ;)
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[personal profile] writerserenyty 2013-06-25 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
You're a fan if you want to be. I watched part of the Matt Smith era, but I quit because I disliked it so much. And I consider myself a fan.

People might say you're not a fan in various fandoms, but the main decider of that is you; if you consider yourself a fan and want to be one.
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[personal profile] intrigueing 2013-06-25 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
There are about fifteen gazillion different types of Doctor Who fan. Seriously, the show is so long and has gone through so much complete turnovers in cast and setting and there is so much variation to the show's canon that there's really no such thing as one set type of "true fan". Just because you like only one Doctor, doesn't mean you're not a true fan.

You're only "not a true fan" if you whine about people moving on or try to claim that people are wrong for having different views on the show, or try to argue that everything apart from the one specific thing you like is crap.

[personal profile] transcriptanon 2013-06-25 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
[Picture is the Ninth, Tenth and Eleventh Doctor from the TV series "Doctor Who".]

I tell people I like Doctor Who, but secretly, I can't consider myself a true fan. I started watching back when David Tennant was the Doctor, and was instantly hooked. As soon as I heard news he was leaving, I stopped watching altogether and haven't even seen any of Matt Smith's Doctor. I haven't even seen Tennant's final episode.

A true fan of Doctor Who many not be sad when a Doctor regenerates, but gets over it. That's probably one of the most iconic things about the show and if I can't deal with Tennant leaving, I'm not fit to call myself a real fan.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2013-06-25 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I felt the same way about Eccleston. Haven't watched in a long time partly because it feels like I'm in a slump with a boring episode, and partly because I have several other fandoms demanding my attention...I'm only a few eps into Tennant, and haven't watched in a while.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-26 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
This is why I always start by watching things out of order, so I never get into a slump. I can always go back and watch in order if I feel the need to ;)
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[personal profile] cadremage 2013-06-26 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
Doctor Who is a very strange, nebulous sort of beast, due to regenerations and show-runner changeovers and all sorts of weird political things that don't happen to regular series that haven't run for 50 years on-and-off. Some people will spout crap about what makes a true fan, but in reality, there's no guide for this fucking thing, because it's some sort of crazy behemoth that's grown far beyond what it might once have been.

Really, at this point, it's whatever you make of it.

I'd encourage you to watch some Old!Who, just because some of it's fun; and I'd encourage you to watch 9's run and 11's (although skip season 6, because WTF even was that shit) because...also fun. But if you don't want to? Oh well! Everybody's got their favorite doctor, and everybody's got their bits they just don't feel like watching. That's the kinda show this is, man. Rock with what you've got.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-26 12:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm just here to say that is a fantastically Photoshopped picture. Maybe you could say you're a Tennant-era fan? You can do what ever you want, OP.

No, you are actually a typical Doctor Who fan IMO

(Anonymous) 2013-06-26 09:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I started watching Doctor Who at the time of the 9th doctor, Christopher Eccleston and I am still blown away each time I re-watch that first season. I have not actually cared about either the 10th or the 11th doctors (well, I don't consider them to 'be' the Doctor. Not really.

I never could stand David Tenant (talk about chewing the scenery) and only the story kept me watching - RTD knows how to write, regardless of what I think about his gender politics. Then again, I give him a pass because he is a gay guy, and therefore I find it perfectly natural that his ideas would be quite different from mine, especially as they relate to women.

Matt Smith is slightly better, but the stories have gone even more over the top since RTD's exit: the only thing that kept me watching was Rory's character... Now? I welcome the announcement of a 12th doctor, I just wish they will not choose someone even younger than Matt Smith.

This fashionable trend of choosing younger and younger actors is really disturbing to me, especially with the increased sexualisation of the show - is the a word? It borders on pedophilia, IMHO (the Amy character could have passed for 14 or 15).

But I gather that for most Doctor Who fans, the real, the best doctor is always whichever was their first doctor: which means that you are a completely normal Doctor Who fan... and so am I! Hee hee hee...

And not watching the latest seasons or not being active in the fandom is a completely different matter: if Eccleston had kept playing Doctor Who, I would be an active fan, watch religiously each new episode, possibly cry at sad moments, read fanfics etc. As it is, I watch the episodes whenever I have nothing else to do and I am not part of the fandom in any active way: don't care about memorabilia, don't care about fanfiction or fanart, not part of any Doctor Who community etc. And certainly don't care whenever the character is regenerated... each episode when we are supposed to feel sad because the Doctor dies/is about to die makes me laugh, actually, it's so OTT and ridiculously done!