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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-06-26 06:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #2367 ]


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(Anonymous) 2013-06-26 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
At the risk of sounding like a troll (Because I do know this is a double standard, but I'm kind of ok with the men getting this shit aimed at them for a change) I am of the opinion that fat men should not be considered attractive by a normal mentally capable human woman. Loved is different, but attractive is strictly a physical thing.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-26 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Care to elaborate on this assertion? Because right now it's sounding like you think that OP and anyone who shares OP's tastes/kinks is not normal or mentally capable. Which is kind of an awful thing to say. And if OP is a woman (which is likely, given the picture), you're not actually targeting men.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-27 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
Except telling people they don't deserve to be found attractive is very harmful. You're telling them they don't get to have a part of the human experience that is normal to many (maybe not all, but many) people and is helpful in things like having self esteem. And if you're telling them that anyone who find them attractive is not "mentally capable" then they'll never trust any sort of compliments they receive.

And if you're going to come back with, "Then maybe they'll lose weight!" We've already heard from COUNTLESS numbers of women that shame and low self esteem does not make you skinny. People who do not have self esteem do not do positive things for themselves, self esteem is IMPORTANT and just because you don't think fat men should be considered attractive it doesn't mean other people with fully functioning brains shouldn't.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-27 01:45 am (UTC)(link)
Everything you say is truth. As a fat woman, I do not trust any compliment I've received in my life. Any compliment on my "pretty smile" or "beautiful hair" or "nice eyes" has always made me think that person was trying to be nice to me but was insincere. I trust they're trying to be nice but I don't trust their sincerity.

I admit that I have no self esteem at all. Zero. And it's up to me to change that, but all my life my family who I know loves and worries about me has always shamed me about my weight (it doesn't help that my family uses me as their garbage disposal). Instead of losing it, I just want to eat more. I do want to lose this weight. I need to lose this weight. But I've not found the motivation and/or support I need.

I've no problem with skinny chic x fat guy or fat chick x skinny guy. I don't see it as plausible for me but that's due to me not liking how I look.

Ugh, sorry to dump that on you when I just wanted to say that I agree with you.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-27 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
Don't worry about the vent nonny! I myself have suffered through various eating disorders and a lot of that is due to my family and in particular my mother's obsession with staying skinny.

I hope you can start treating yourself better, and note that treating yourself better to me does not necessarily mean losing weight, I hope you can be happy and healthy and learn to like the way you look. I know it's easier said then done, but there are sincere people out there and they were honest about their compliments to you.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2013-06-27 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
You actually sound like you are trying to dictate how women feel about men. Like, they're not ALLOWED to experience a certain form of attraction.

Really??? Your assertion is harmful to both men AND women.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-27 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
Your risk was sounding like an idiot.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-27 02:09 pm (UTC)(link)
"I am of the opinion that fat men should not be considered attractive by a normal mentally capable human woman"

...As opposed to an alien woman?

And what about homosexual fat men and women.