[ SECRET POST #2371 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2371 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

09. http://i.imgur.com/B71dQ8W.png

[forgottenjester]

People care if the president is into sports? (Or fandom?) Because I really do not care. No offense but I care more about their political ideas, fiscal stances, and how those intertwine. What they like to do in their free time means very little to me.

By the way though, Obama likes Spider-Man comics. So there's your fandom. Congrats.*

I still can't bring myself to care though.

*(Also wasn't there that lady running for office where her competitor tried to use the fact that she played WoW against her? Something about how she's a rogue and she backstabs or something. It was fucking ridiculous.)

[nightscale]

There was, she got a lot of shit for saying something like 'I enjoy shanking Alliance players in the back', I think her phrasing was more violent but really I've heard worse language in-game directed at other people in same-faction groups than one lady talking about how much fun she has killing the opposite faction.

[forgottenjester]

Yeah that was the stupidest thing ever. It was a forum post. The fuck do I care if she likes to kill her enemies in video games? That has no effect on her ability to hold office. The fact that the other side even tried to use it to their advantage was laughable.

The only time I could ever see it being used against someone successfully is if it was a legitimate thing that the person had trouble not doing. As in, they can't even stop the activity to do basic things. But I would have that problem no matter the object or whatever the person was addicted to. On top of that, I doubt someone who had such a problem would run for office in the first place.

Either way, it all boils down to that fact I will never ever care what hobbies a person in politics has because that's not what they're in office for. (Unless their hobby is eating babies or something but until that happens I am going to continue to make the blanket statement that I don't care.)

[diet_poison]

I kind of think the point is less that "I'd vote for someone if they were open about fandom [at the exclusion of every other reason]" which is really stupid, and more that they wish it were more acceptable to be open about fandom in the political arena, like it is for sports. (Correct me if I'm wrong, OP.) However wrongheaded it was for that one lady's opponent (I forget her name too) to make a big deal about her hobby, it DOES demonstrate that society at large still sees being a "nerd" as being less successful/competent/"normal" and it affects their view of people in the spotlight to an extent.

I totally agree with you about not caring what hobbies a politician has...I agree with OP to an extent, but I perhaps don't think it's quite as big of a deal. I'd love for fandom to be more accepted because those hobbies shouldn't reflect poorly on people, but at the same time, for myself I don't caaaare because I like what I like regardless. If I ran for office, yeah it would piss me off. If we keep having incidents like WoW Lady, and people can't quit shitting themselves over it...then I'll be sad and probably more invested in it as an issue.

[forgottenjester]

I think it's great for fandom to be increasingly accepted. I just think it has no room for promotion among politicians. Just like I think sports has no room for promotion among politicians even though it happens. I also think we can't look to this one instance of it being used as a negative and say it means much. Smear campaigns try to find anything they can as negative and I've found some ridiculous shit said in them that just made me go, "isn't that a good thing?" I mean, it's so ridiculous I bet they would have done the same if she listened to rap or rock n' roll. I can see it now. "She listens to music that incites violence and premarital sex! Obviously that will influence her lawmaking!"

In all honesty I doubt it will keep happening because it proved to be such a failure for him. People aren't going to keep using something in a smear campaign if it doesn't get them votes. Hopefully. I want to have a little faith that they aren't that stupid.

[diet_poison]

haha yeah, you are right. And there's nothing wrong with politicians to be open about what they like, but it isn't their job to promote hobbies...ESPECIALLY when there are a million and one more important things for them to be doing...

[insanenoodlyguy]

Just stop.

[writerserenyty]

http://abcnews.go.com/images/Politics/ht_twitter_obama_vulcan_Nichelle_Nichols_thg_120404_wblog.jpg

There you go

[tabaqui]

That's the most adorable picture ever. And damn, Ms Nichols - you are still one sexy lady. :)

[(Anonymous)]

Why, though. Why would it mean a lot. Why would it matter.

[transcriptanon]

[Picture is a screen-capture from a Sonic The Hedgehog 3D videogame. The character Sonic is talking to someone off-screen. He is a blue cartoon hedgehog wearing white gloves and red sports shoes. The image has the subtitles: "Don't worry, Mr. President, everything is under control. Just leave it to us!". On the background, part of the character Tails can be seen. He's a young yellow cartoon fox with two tails and dressed in the same manner as Sonic.]

Even though people joke about things like this, I think it would mean a lot to have a president or government official be openly into fandom. It's already accepted to be sports fans, why can't people be honest about having their life changed by a cartoon or video game?

[(Anonymous)]

I can see how this might help to legitimize fandom but I don't really think it's necessary. People who are inclined to be very fannish about shows, movies, games, etc. find fandom, so it isn't like fandom in general needs advertising to keep from dying. I also think it would likely just cause more wank in the fandom(s) that politician is in.

[thene]

What do you mean by 'fandom'? Do you want to know what your elected representatives ship? Do you need to see their kink meme fills?

[(Anonymous)]

The President of the United States grew up addicted to Spider-Man and Conan comics, has been photographed playing with a toy lightsaber, and joked in a speech that he wasn't born in Kenya, he was born on the planet Krypton and rocketed here as an infant by his father Jor-El to save humanity.

What, specifically, are you still waiting for?

this!

[(Anonymous)]

He also makes Star Trek references about himself as a Vulcan. He's definitely a fan!

(it's still weird that he's younger than me)

[(Anonymous)]

As others have said Obama is a bit of a nerd, but you probably should stop putting stock into something like that. Presidents are elected to do a specific job, not to make the masses feel better about politically-inconsequential things. Even if your president is not Obama, I'd be weirded out if they even cared about 'legitimizing' fandom.

[chardmonster]

No way in hell am I voting for an openly affiliated member of Sonic fandom. I mean, go ahead and like Sonic, that's fine, but if you feel a need to tell the public? Hell no.

A Trekkie? Sure. My congressman is one, had a whole themed interview on Colbert. Buffy? Hell, most TV fandoms besides Supernatural? No worries. I'd love a powerful politician who admits to playing video games.

But Sonic? No. That fandom is Lyndon LaRouche crazy.

[silverau]

I could see thinking it was cool if I suddenly found out that the president played Pokemon or whatever, but I wouldn't actively hope for that to happen.

[baranohanayome.livejournal.com]

Politicians have more important things to worry about than fandom. I would be greatly displeased if I found out that a Senator from my state, for example, blew off their work for a week to hit up Dragon*Con.*

I mean I'd understand why they did it, but that wouldn't make me feel any better about it.




*Completely fictional example, I don't think anyone's actually done this.

[(Anonymous)]

Are you displeased when your elected officials take vacations in general?

[(Anonymous)]

Well...Obama is already pretty damn fannish, so...yeah. But that aside, I don't see how it matters. The presidency is a job and the candidates involvement in fandom is going to have little to nothing to do with it...And I also believe that the president's private life should be...well. Private [unless he spends his free time killing babies or something.]

[greenvelvetcake]

Heaven forbid. I can just see it now - people voting based on a candidate's favorite books/series/band instead of their politics.

Voter: "Hey, they like 1984! I love that book!"
Candidate: "It's one of my favorites. I love a happy ending."

But it's not like people haven't voted based on irrelevant things in the past.

[starry_starrrz]

I dunno, quite a lot of politicians are into 'geeky' stuff, it kind of comes with the territory of being able to sustain interest in politics... lol. Seriously though, I always like to see that politicians have interests and hobbies outside of drinking in the members' bar.

[dancing_clown]

Well...I don't think I've ever heard anybody say *~their life was changed*~ because they watched sports, which is the more accurate comparison you're grasping at. Sometimes you get someone saying their life was changed from *playing* sports but that's an animal that can help with physical fitness, with teamwork, responsibility and leadership, a sense of belonging in the real world, and serve as upward motion when you start talking about scholarships (not to mention the oft-talked about "this kept me out of trouble and gave me a place to channel aggression).

*Maybe* you get a little bit of the aggression channeling and distraction from video games but when you compare benefits, you've got all of the above versus "my sad-sack, anti-social self felt better."

And let's be real, feeling better is a good thing, but if my grown man/woman government representative starting waxing poetic about how a cartoon CHANGED THEIR LIFE, I'm 95 percent certain I'd think they were a fucking moron who never got over the mean people they knew as a kid. And depending on how good of a legislator they were, I'd probably hope they got booted from office in the next election, because seriously.