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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-06-30 03:20 pm

[ SECRET POST #2371 ]


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(Anonymous) 2013-06-30 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)
The other thing I liked about Dresden Files, though I think it got dropped more in later books, was that the cops already had pre-existing 'black cat' divisions to handle 'weird shit'. As in, it was kept on the low-down, but the general police establishment was aware of the potential existence of the supernatural. They didn't like people out-and-out saying anything (hence Butters getting slammed), but there seems to have been a degree of awareness.

Plus. The Mob is in the know. Because the criminal element of any area probably is quite likely to run into shady supernatural goings-on, just by the proximity factor of sharing similarly shady spheres.
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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2013-06-30 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh no, it totally didn't get dropped. They bring it up every now and then. You even meet one of the people who was in one of those units. And yeah, I liked that too. It made it believable.

Yeah! What I liked as well was that we got to see how some crooks know more than others and how some not only used that knowledge to their advantage but also how they grow in that knowledge, like with Marcone. I didn't need a lot but the fact that they are acknowledged makes me much more willing to work with the writer.
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[personal profile] pantasma 2013-07-01 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
Especially when, like you said, they grow in the knowledge. I was glad to see a reaction to the information, and with someone who uses all their information to the fullest advantage, there were logical steps he took in the series.

I also liked it didn't become major plot points in the books, the development of the other organizations, but was just assumed that it happened in the background. Very much like real life: organizations change, and you don't find out about it until you're trying to get something done with them.

Back to the cops, I kinda wish he would bring an IA person into the know, just because the squad needs someone on their side. If they disappear into a fae hill for a couple days -- or years -- or show up two days before they left, they could use someone who's in the know to do the evaluations regarding their conduct. They already have a whole team to make their reports look pretty and normal, why not someone who appraises them making their reports looking pretty?
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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2013-07-01 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I gotta agree about the major plot point thing. I think the reason some writers use this bad trope to begin with is because they fear it becoming a major plot point when they really don't want to take their story in that direction. In reality, they just don't know how to write it well enough for that not to happen.

IA? Internal... appraiser? Um, but no I get you. I think the reason they don't is because while the squad knows and covers their own ass the up tops and the people reviewing them who are sent by the up tops do not believe in the supernatural. Therefore you can't have someone cover for you who you can not only not influence because you don't pay them but have a vested interest in ruining you to the up tops who don't like you and don't believe or refuse to believe in the things you have to deal with. I'm not sure how you could turn one to your side and have that not get noticed by the up tops.
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[personal profile] pantasma 2013-07-01 03:36 am (UTC)(link)
Internal Affairs.

I understand why they don't - convincing someone outside that you're not completely off your rocker, that this stuff really does happen would be all but impossible. Most books talk about how, even if you've experienced it yourself, you write it off as your mind playing tricks and rationalize it away. It's totally understandable that you wouldn't want to take the risk that you'd get carted off for something like that.

They do cover for themselves and each other, but there's only so much you can do when under review. I also know it's not likely to happen in ANY story because of all the complications, and how much rationalization it would take. I'm just saying it might help alleviate some of the pressure on the team/s that do deal with this stuff.
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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2013-07-01 03:50 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I remember that part. He says it a few times and it makes sense.

...But yeah now I want that too and I hate you for making me think of it.
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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2013-07-01 05:51 am (UTC)(link)
DX
Edited 2013-07-01 05:51 (UTC)