[ SECRET POST #2377 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2377 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

To quote British author M. John Harrison:

"You can hate them without feeling wrong. You can kill them like eating sweets. Then you’re hungry again & you can kill more. They’re fully dehumanised. There’s no off-season, no moral limitation. They’re the enemy. What’s not to love? They’re what we really want. The zombie is the ultimate other in a neoliberal society. They’re a rhetoric we all can use. Zombies aren’t just for the insane Right, or for adolescent boys. They’re for everyone. People who lean Left–who consider themselves adult & multicultural & would never be caught othering–will happily slaughter zombies. Zombies are the ultimate other: the act of othering they represent doesn’t just remain unsaid (as it would with the Right): it remains unthought. The ultimate in deniability. Zombies: motiveless, other, but without any traceable connection to a group in the real world, they will never embarrass you by revealing their humanity. To position themselves as killable, they don’t even have to parrot the twaddle of “evil”. They’re the pinnacle of Hollywood characterisation, actant & action as a single unit. Deeper down, they allow you to refuse rational motivation to your victim, while encouraging you to claim victimhood for yourself. I’m surprised it took so long to make something like World War Z."

[feathercircle]

Now this has me curious- are there any films/franchises which don't dehumanize zombies?

The only one I can think of off the top of my head is I Am Legend, and even then only in the novel and in the film's deleted/alternate ending.

[(Anonymous)]

There's Shaun of the Dead, but it's played for laughs.

[(Anonymous)]

And only at the very end. (Shaun of the Dead is hilarious, BTW.)

[(Anonymous)]

The Omega Man, the 70s Charlton Heston adaptation of I Am Legend, managed to keep a lot of the zombie's humanity, though they're portrayed more as mutants, and they're still the bad guys.

I was really annoyed with the 2007 adaptation for completely missing the point of the novel.

[luxshine]

Get angry at the people who saw the original cut then. Apparently they originally filmed an ending that FIT with the point of the novel, but audiences hated it so they changed it to that... thing we saw.

[(Anonymous)]

I suppose. I guess this is why books are still more varied than films. There's more latitude in print to make uncomfortable points than there is in films where you have to justify your budgets?

[darkmanifest]

It makes me wonder just where the hell they got their test audiences from, since everybody I've seen discussing it agrees that the original ending was the superior one (including me, it was an intense finale that made you question everything you had just seen).

[starzki]

Land of the Dead, which I think is Romero's most recent movie. I was expecting schlock, and it was campy, but it was terrific. In it, the zombies start to evolve and half the time you're rooting for them to take out some of the more insidious non-zombies.

[starzki]

Also, though I haven't seen it, Warm Bodies.

[kamino_neko]

Yeah, once the zombies started getting noticeably smart, I was waiting, waiting, waiting for them to take out Dennis Hopper's character.

[queerwolf]

Warm Bodies. And it's even told from a zombie's POV. It's a comedy, but it still works.

[(Anonymous)]

Warm Bodies maybe? The zombies get de-humanized, but they are then re-humanized...sort of.

[(Anonymous)]

There's a comic mini-series called Dead Eyes Open, where the dead are pretty much as they were in life, save for the bodily decay and inability to sleep, and how that affects not only daily life, but also laws, politics, etc. It used to be available online, where the author had retrospective footnotes (he felt strongly that it was overambitious for the 6 issues it had), though Amazon still has a copy of the collected series up. I remember that, yeah, there's not a lot of subtlety as far as good/bad guys go, but enjoying it quite a bit regardless for what it delves into.

Apparently there's also a French movie called Les Revenants (They Came Back), also with the dead attempting to re-integrate into daily life, but they come back more at a child's level of intelligence and have to re-learn things.

[cloudsinvenice]

There's a German movie called Otto; or, Up with Dead People:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1151384/