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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-07-06 03:21 pm

[ SECRET POST #2377 ]


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Re: "Ableist language"?

(Anonymous) 2013-07-07 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
If you call a mentally disabled person stupid, that's offensive, because you're implying they should have magically been able to act differently.

Mentally disabled person (and not bothered by 'stupid' except in specific contects) here- how can you be sure the person you're calling stupid isn't disabled? Outside of Down syndrome and a few other things you can't really tell by looking.
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Re: "Ableist language"?

[personal profile] chardmonster 2013-07-07 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
How can you tell they're not mentally disabled?

How can you tell they're not physically disabled?

How can you tell they're not depressed?

How can you tell they're not sick?

How can you tell they're not just upset?

How can you tell they want to talk to you?

How can you tell they are enjoying the party?

Re: "Ableist language"?

(Anonymous) 2013-07-07 07:57 am (UTC)(link)
well we know how to tell when someone is desperate for attention
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Re: "Ableist language"?

[personal profile] intrigueing 2013-07-07 03:12 am (UTC)(link)
IMO, what makes this particular term offensive is whether or not the say-er knows. If you call someone stupid who you know is mentally disabled, that's kinda douchey. If you call someone stupid who is mentally disabled but you didn't know it, IMO, just apologize if you do find out, but if you can't tell they're mentally disabled from the get-go...well, no offense, but I don't really think it's a huge deal? Stupid isn't the worst thing you can call someone. I mean, a stupid action is a stupid action regardless, it's just that it could be mean-spirited to say it if you know the person who did it has a mental disability. But I may not have the right perspective here, so feel free to argue with this opinion.

But this kind of just strengthens my opinion that the word "stupid" is kind of jerky and pointless if you're describing a person wholesale, disabled or not. I find that "stupid" is a much more useful descriptor when you're referring to actions or behaviors.

If I may ask -- what contexts do you find the word bothersome? Just curious to know about various people's perspectives on these kinds of things.