fandomsecrets | [ SECRET POST #2390 ]

⌈ Secret Post #2390 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

01.

[Karl Urban]

__________________________________________________

02.

[Legend of Zelda]

__________________________________________________

03.

[Pride and Prejudice]

__________________________________________________

04.

[Shingeki no Kyojin]

__________________________________________________

05.

[Les dossiers du Bell]

__________________________________________________

[ ----- SPOILERY SECRETS AHEAD ----- ]

06. [SPOILERS for 'Injustice: Gods Among Us'; 'Man of Steel']

__________________________________________________

07. [SPOILERS for Welcome to Night Vale]

__________________________________________________

08. [SPOILERS for Young Justice]

__________________________________________________

09. [SPOILERS for Merlin]

__________________________________________________

10. [SPOILERS for Supernatural]

__________________________________________________

11. [SPOILERS for Umineko no Naku Koro ni]

__________________________________________________

[ ----- TRIGGERY SECRETS AHEAD ----- ]

12. [WARNING for incest]

[Felica & Ryon Day, "Co-Optitude"]

__________________________________________________

13. [WARNING for incest]

__________________________________________________

14. [WARNING for suicide]

__________________________________________________

15. [WARNING for abuse]

__________________________________________________

Notes:

Sorry for late again, work's a bit busy this week.

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #341.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Flat | Top-Level Comments Only

But it makes sense to say that a couple who doesn't want or can't have children can't be a family?

Yes.

They are a married couple. There's nothing wrong with being a married couple.

Except that, like the woman the OP was talking to, it's implied that people who don't have children are "incomplete" in some way when you claim that a couple cannot be a family.

What is a family but a system of people who love, cherish, support, and care for one another? Are you willing to say that married couples without children don't fulfill those criteria? Are you willing to claim that all married couples with children do?

Why is it so important to be called a "family?"

Rather than question what "family" means, shouldn't we instead be questioning why a "family" has more worth than a non-"family?"

Exactly. What's wrong with being a married couple?

Why is it so important to be called a "family?"

Why is it so important that people be kept out of that group?

Why is any category so important that it needs to be its own separate category apart from others? And why is membership in a particular group so important?

If rights are at stake, then we have a problem. If people of all groups are afforded the same rights, then there is not.

And why is membership in a particular group so important?

Because general society made it important.

It is perfectly valid for people to not have children, and it is perfectly valid that those same people call themselves a family. If there was no importance afforded to the word, then you wouldn't be so adamant about people not using it just because you don't think they should.

AYRT

I'm actually not adamant that people shouldn't use it, and I regret that I've come across that way. I sincerely didn't mean to.

What I'm adamant about is that general society shouldn't make it important, and that the fact that it does is the actual problem. Whether someone defines oneself as being part of a family or not should not matter.

It could be argued that, whether or not it's correct, society places certain values on certain terms, and so we must use certain terms. But I don't buy that. You can't address the problems in society by accepting its values and its definitions. You have to question them, and then you have to deny them.

Well, rights and benefits are at stake, such as when I filed for bereavement leave last year with the death of my grandfather.

AYRT

That's an interesting point. My company allows for bereavement leave for the death of a grandparent, but not for the death of an aunt or uncle. The fact that there are potential differences between companies is a problem.

Really, I think that bereavement should be permitted anytime someone the employee is close to dies. If my best friend were to pass, then my grief would not be significantly different from that I experienced when my grandmother died.

Honestly, that would be a nice thing to do. Realistically, that would be a prohibitively expensive thing to do. All of a sudden, people would have so many close friends who were all dropping like flies if they got paid bereavement leave for friends.

Where I work, it's not like they won't let you take time off for the funeral of a friend - you just don't get paid time off. That's restricted to family, which yes, OP, does include parents, siblings and even grandparents.

[ SECRET POST #2390 ]

Re: Does a couple without kids count as "a family"?

Re: Does a couple without kids count as "a family"?

Re: Does a couple without kids count as "a family"?

Re: Does a couple without kids count as "a family"?

Re: Does a couple without kids count as "a family"?

Re: Does a couple without kids count as "a family"?

Re: Does a couple without kids count as "a family"?

Re: Does a couple without kids count as "a family"?

Re: Does a couple without kids count as "a family"?

Re: Does a couple without kids count as "a family"?

Re: Does a couple without kids count as "a family"?

Re: Does a couple without kids count as "a family"?