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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-07-21 03:32 pm

[ SECRET POST #2392 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2392 ⌋

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[personal profile] dreemyweird 2013-07-21 08:01 pm (UTC)(link)
IA. Granted, he has legitimate reasons for being the way he is, but his permanent bitterness is definitely a part of why I'm rather cold towards this franchise.
It is odd, in fact; I have awfully whiny characters amongst my favourites, the kind that never stops whining, feeling resentful, bitter, just plain bad, and being very ungrateful. For some reason these things suddenly start making me uncomfortable when it comes to watching a Batman film or reading a Batman comic.
I just don't like the rest of his personality, I guess.
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[personal profile] dethtoll 2013-07-21 09:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I think Batman is at his best when he's surrounded by other people who stick by him despite his constant manipulation. He needs Oracle to berate him for his mind games and he needs Robin to keep him centered.

(Anonymous) 2013-07-21 09:48 pm (UTC)(link)
And he needs Alfred to just issue withering sarcasm anytime he is being extra douchey and uphimself.
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2013-07-22 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
Took me long enough, but I finally tracked this down: http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/873794?tags=lee_sang_shin

(Warning: site has NSFW ads.)

(Anonymous) 2013-07-21 08:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Then he wouldn't be Batman any more. Heck, he wouldn't even be Bruce Wayne any more either. He's be a different person altogether.
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[personal profile] electromouse 2013-07-21 08:46 pm (UTC)(link)

(Anonymous) 2013-07-21 08:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Batman - Gary Stu with daddy/mommy issues.

[personal profile] transcriptanon 2013-07-21 08:55 pm (UTC)(link)
[Picture is a comic book image of Batman standing in the rain looking angry and holding a stick. His outfit is gray and skin-tight with the outline of a bat with its wings outstretched and he's wearing a darker gray cowl over that with bat ears and only his mouth bare. He's also wearing a utility belt.]

I wish Batman would get over himself. (No, not in every adaptation just most of them.)

(Anonymous) 2013-07-21 08:58 pm (UTC)(link)
"Shut up Jason! Who cares if the Joker beat you to death with a crowbar, you can't kill him! Morals, ahhhh!!"'

"Of course you can kill the Joker for what he did to Barbara, Gordon! Bros before ro's dawg"

(Anonymous) 2013-07-24 10:31 pm (UTC)(link)
That's not really a fair comparison seeing as how Batman as a character changes drastically depending on who is writing him.

Though Batman most popular character trait is that he has never condoned killing, despite the fact he struggles with the urge to kill sometimes... it's the only rule he won't break.

I imagine his policy rubs people who are pro-death penalty the wrong way.

(Anonymous) 2013-07-21 09:12 pm (UTC)(link)
If Batman gets over himself he stops being Batman and moves to a cottage in Europe.

The whole tragedy of batman is that he cannot "get over" himself. He is as trapped in his psychosis as the villains he fights, he's just better at focusing it.

Actually, I retract my first statement. If Batman "gets over" himself and still manages to be Batman then he becomes the Adam West version. He's the closest you'll get to a Batman who's over his issues, or just repressing like hell.

(Anonymous) 2013-07-21 09:51 pm (UTC)(link)
He does okay in some adaptations - usually ones where the rest of the batfamily is around to call him on his bullshit.

(Anonymous) 2013-07-22 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
You mean surrounded by all the children and teenagers he's dragged into fighting dangerous criminals with him
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2013-07-21 09:14 pm (UTC)(link)
What do you think of Batman: the Brave and the Bold?
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[personal profile] zing_och 2013-07-21 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
gah, I wish comics would stop it with the muscles upon muscles. I didn't recognize his right leg for what it was and thought "WHAT IS HE HUMPING?" for quite a while.

Seriously. "What is it? A skull?" and then I remembered the secret was about the death of his parents and became veeeerrryy uncomfortable.

(Anonymous) 2013-07-22 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
This is why Batman needs people. The best versions are the ones where the writers (and by extension maybe Bats himself) realize that he needs that. I LOVE when he's spouting his rhetoric about "I work alone! I am angry and embittered and soulless! Have I mentioned my parents are dead!!" but at the same time has the Batfamily and the biggest team of close connections of any superhero..."I work alone!" he says, and Grayson says "Ok, sure thing Bruce," while Drake out-batmans batman, and Cass kicks butt like he taught her, and Huntress rolls her eyes and gets shit done, and Oracle hacks him, and Supes is all "Do us all a favor Bruce, buy a sense of humor"+some OTT but ridic sincere shit. And Alfred rules all.

(Anonymous) 2013-07-22 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
I agree.

I don't think Batman necessarily has to be GRIMDARK and angsty and gritty 24/7. I think a bit of humour could lighten things up, and work to contrast the dark bits.
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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2013-07-22 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
I kind of agree? I think it's a matter of balance. If he's completely over himself then he's not exactly Batman but if he has too much I just can't make myself care about him. It's not a likable trait in access. So yeah, balance.