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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-07-21 03:32 pm

[ SECRET POST #2392 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2392 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2013-07-21 08:25 pm (UTC)(link)
neither do you choose to be an addict

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(Anonymous) 2013-07-21 09:47 pm (UTC)(link)
But you choose to drink alcohol/take drugs/etc.

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(Anonymous) 2013-07-21 10:01 pm (UTC)(link)
What about people who start taking drugs or drinking as a way of self-medicating for undiagnosed mental illness, and subsequently become addicted?

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(Anonymous) 2013-07-21 10:38 pm (UTC)(link)
You're old enough to buy alcohol legally/you know enough tricks to get illegal substances/you know the effects of a legal and easy attainable drug and have the money to pay for them, so it's ok.

It not like you knew they could be addicting and harmful and it's not like it's common knowledge or anything.

It's not your fault, you obviously didn't have money to get medical help and didn't have any idea you could get help.

It obviously wasn't your decision and you aren't your own responsibility.
After all, you are special and can overcome anything.

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(Anonymous) 2013-07-21 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
from what I'm seeing, this guy started when he was 13which is not uncommon. Please go on about how that's "old enough" for whatever.

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(Anonymous) 2013-07-22 02:18 am (UTC)(link)
A) There's still a stigma on being mentally ill. Moreso than there is on drinking or even taking illegal drugs. A lot of people self medicate because they don't want to admit (or haven't really consciously understood) that they have a mental illness.


B) Mentally. Ill.

It might surprise you to know this, but a lot of people who are mentally ill aren't exactly known for making good and rational life choices.

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(Anonymous) 2013-07-22 03:15 am (UTC)(link)
None of that *absolves* them of their responsibility for their own actions.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2013-07-22 03:17 am (UTC)(link)
and you are strawmanning this in the opposite direction lol
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2013-07-22 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
You are still responsible for your actions.

Just because there is an explanation for it doesn't mean there's an excuse.

Drunk Driver runs over somebody, their self-medication doesn't mean shit to me as to what they deserve to have happen next. Responsibility remains in their hands.

Consequently, you kill yourself doing drugs, it's pretty damn obvious who's to blame. Doesn't mean it's not sad, even tragic, but saying "it wasn't their fault!" is a flawed argument.

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(Anonymous) 2013-07-21 09:57 pm (UTC)(link)
You don't choose to be an addict, but you choose to start doing drugs. And it's pretty common knowledge that most drugs are addictive.
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[personal profile] elephantinegrace 2013-07-21 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't choose to have an eating disorder, but I chose to start throwing up at the earliest opportunity after I ate when I was eleven years old. When a person's eleven, or thirteen, the part of the brain that regulates decision-making isn't fully developed yet. You literally don't understand consequences. It's not throwing up=less water weight=ulcers and tooth loss, it's throwing up=weight loss=people stop picking on you. And likewise, it's not drugs=temporary relief=addiction, it's drugs=no pain=happiness.

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(Anonymous) 2013-07-22 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
Making a mistake as a child doesn't make it less of a mistake - it just makes it more understandable that someone made that mistake.

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[personal profile] diet_poison 2013-07-22 03:19 am (UTC)(link)
It does, however, affect the level of responsibility they had in making that mistake. Of course it was a mistake, but a 13yo and a 23yo making that mistake are completely different situations.