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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-07-21 03:32 pm

[ SECRET POST #2392 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2392 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2013-07-21 09:05 pm (UTC)(link)
My guess is that there are drastically fewer recovered addicts in fandom than there are people who've experienced the other kinds of things that usually get trigger warned for.

Additionally (and arguably, I guess - I'm only going off my personal experience here), the process of recovery might lead to a more dispassionate response towards reminders of addiction-related death than being triggered.

As regards the friends/family of addicts, or people who'd rather avoid death content... IDK why that's not prompting a warning call. General presence of death stories in all media all the time, maybe?

(Anonymous) 2013-07-21 09:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it's kind of indicative of what's going on when you see posts about someone trying to quit eating sugar and how that gave them a new understanding about what addicts go through, and someone who literally didn't grasp how someone could come from a home environment that would lead them to do drugs at 13.

It's just a question of experience, I think.

(Anonymous) 2013-07-21 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, the thread in general is very reflective of the fact that the experience of addiction is poorly understood by non-addicts, leading to an apparent feeling of freedom to voice conservative and judgemental opinions all over the shop.

Good job, f!s'ers :/
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2013-07-22 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
You can actually get addicted to sugar, you know.

It's hardly of the same degree as being addicted to, say, heroin. But it appears the person who said so actually acknowledged that?
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2013-07-22 03:48 am (UTC)(link)
I was wondering this. I had never heard that before...hmm.

(Anonymous) 2013-07-22 04:01 am (UTC)(link)
Bread has similar properties to cocaine as far as it comes to addiction. Ask someone to give up bread and the like, the usual answer is "I couldn't imagine it".

So, if folks would like to try it, try to give up wheat and sugars. Good luck!

(Anonymous) 2013-07-22 09:58 am (UTC)(link)
I'm the OP of the sugar addiction. I have an addictive personality, and I've given up most sugar because that shit's just not healthy. Or well, I'm trying to give up sugar, at any rate.

I consume sweets like nobody's business, because it's one of the few tastes that tastes good to me. Cutting out something my body really wants is just the worst feeling in the world. I've had caffeine addiction my whole life, but sugar is a million times harder to quit than caffeine, because everything. Has. Sugar. (I don't drink/smoke/do drugs other than caffeine, specifically because my family is very prone to addiction.)

Grocery shopping is like an alcoholic going to a party where everyone is drinking. I feel like I'm exaggerating, but it's really just that bad. And, like a smoker, the first three days are the worst.

And because someone's going to comment on it: No, I'm not overweight or diabetic, and yes, I probably consume a lot more sugar than is healthy.

(Anonymous) 2013-07-23 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
Grocery shopping is like an alcoholic going to a party where everyone is drinking. I feel like I'm exaggerating, but it's really just that bad.

Just to point out - many alcoholics in recovery can quite happily go to parties where everyone is drinking, just like we can go to the store and walk down the liquor aisle without feeling anything, or have a meal with a partner who's got a glass of wine on the go without thinking twice about it. You're really spreading some stereotypes and misinformation around in this thread, sugar-anon!

(Anonymous) 2013-07-24 06:45 pm (UTC)(link)
They did say addiction is common in their family-- maybe they know recovering alcoholics for whom that IS true?

(Anonymous) 2013-07-21 09:18 pm (UTC)(link)
you know, you always make really good points in threads dealing with mental illness and whatnot but you are so fucking sanctimonious and condescending about it that it devalues what you're actually saying.
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(Anonymous) 2013-07-21 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Not sure you were much more sanctimonious and condescending than all the people saying everyone who tries drugs ever deserves whatever they get.

(Anonymous) 2013-07-22 02:31 am (UTC)(link)
Ia

The responses upthread is a mess

(Anonymous) 2013-07-22 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
When was she "sanctimonious and condescending"? She seemed pretty calm to me. How is she supposed to react to combative, angry anons? I think she handled it well, mostly.

(Anonymous) 2013-07-21 10:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I was alright coming into this thread but now I really wish there fucking was.
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[personal profile] making_excuses 2013-07-21 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Thinking of it, and I am not big on trigger warnings, but as someone living a life surrounded by drug addicts, and seeing the reality that at least two of my uncles probably will overdose one day, it is quite odd it isn't trigger warned for.

Because if (and I really hope it will never happen) one of my family members (or some acquaintances for that matter), died of a drug overdose and I had to read this I would be in tears.

Actually I am pretty shocked (and sad) about how many people say someone deserved to die, no matter the reason. Because even if taking a drug is in itself a choice, it is no more a choice than suicide and we trigger warn for that and both things are horrible to go through for the ones left behind.

(Anonymous) 2013-07-21 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
oh shut up, it does not. no one asked about it because it's stupid, that's why.

(Anonymous) 2013-07-22 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
Someone here is making themselves look bad and it's not stella_down.

Hint: It's you.

Please can we all just calm down a bit?
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[personal profile] astridv 2013-07-22 07:04 am (UTC)(link)
Wanted to thank you for your thoughtful comments here, especially in the frozen thread above.
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