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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-07-21 03:32 pm

[ SECRET POST #2392 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2392 ⌋

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Re: Privilege

(Anonymous) 2013-07-21 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I am legally blind without my glasses, so I am very well aware of what it's like to not be able to see. However, I also know what it's like to be disabled in other ways - and having weak eyes? That's a very bad reference point. I'm not saying that to mean that bad eyes isn't a disadvantage - it is. But you're not hampered by people making a ton of assumptions about what you can/cannot do based on it usually.

For example, I also have a mental illness. I've had people assume that I can't do my job once they found that - despite the fact I was doing it fine prior to that. I've been passed over for promotions and other things because of it, and I've even had people assume that I was a slavering lunatic who was about to hurt them...and that was someone I'd known for years.

More often than not in the issues SJ takes up with, it's closer to your second example than it is your first.

Also, for the record - I'm not trying to insult you, and I'm not judging you. I was pointing out that it's possible you don't see some of the ones you're claiming aren't 'privilege' because you're not in those groups and don't have to deal with it. As far as it goes, I get that this is confusing concept and, more often than not, ends up frustrating both sides when it's discussed.

However, I do ask that you stop being so defensive.

Re: Privilege

(Anonymous) 2013-07-21 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
You are still making assumptions here. I never said anyone wasn't having a disadvantage, I SAID the word privilege is weirdly (or incorrectly) used.

YOU have a disadvantage because of your mental illness and a disadvantage because people are assholes and treat you badly for it. That does NOT mean that people without a mental illness get any advantage. Because there are not enough people with mental illnesses to actually make a difference.

I only brought up my bad eyes to make it clear that I think the same thing when I'm the one with the disadvantage - just because I can't see well, doesn't mean anyone else has an advantage. Whether or not I can see doesn't actually help anyone else. Thus, nobody has any "privilege" from that. The only case I have seen where privilege actually applies is male vs female, because *drumroll* half the population is female. A very stupid, untalented, lazy and all around not-awesome man? Can easily become supervisor if everyone else in that jobfield is female, simply because he is male. Therefore, privilege.
An able-bodied person who is stupid, untalented, lazy and all around not awesome? Would have a very hard time to find a jobfield where everyone else was disabled. You don't GET any handouts from society just for being able-bodied. Thus, not a privilege. (You DO get a lot of shit for NOT being able-bodied. Thus, a disadvantage).

I am literally only arguing the word here.