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⌈ Secret Post #2392 ⌋

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Re: Privilege

[(Anonymous)]

Sociological terms can be confusing even in English for people who haven't studied the subject. So I think you get a pass! :)

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I thought the term "privilege" referred to groups of people getting "special privileges" over other groups of people for what they are, rather than things they earned.

eg. upper-class people/white people/men/straight people getting treated better or getting particular perks and social advantages simply for being upper class/white/male/straight.

Is this correct?

Re: Privilege

[(Anonymous)]

Kind of. But how can the majority get "special perks"? When most people get something, then it's normal and a matter of course to have it. NOT having it is a disadvantage, but having it? Is just normal and nothing special.

Upper-class? Definitely a privilege, because that's not the majority. Being rich gives you advantages and privileges OVER the majority. They get treated differently than most people, the way they are treated is NOT the norm, is special. Thus, advantage and privilege.

Able-bodied people are the majority, as are straight people, as are white people in some countries - the way they get treated by society is the norm, because MOST people get treated like that. So it's not an advantage. Of course it is a BIG disadvantage for everyone not in that group - disabled people, homo/bi/pansexual people, people of other races all get disadvantages. But if 1 disabled person doesn't get a job because of their disability? That doesn't help the 1000 able-bodied job-seekers any, because it's not enough "advantage" to make a difference. So being able-bodied is not a privilege.

100 people. 99 get ice cream, 1 does not. Sucks for the one. But do the 99 really get "special treatment" or "special perks"? No. Because special means "more than normal", and "having ice cream" IS normal. So NOT having ice cream is a disadvantage, but having ice cream? Is nothing special. NOT privilege.(still sucks for the one and the one should definitely get ice cream too)

100 people. 10 get ice cream, 90 do not. MOST don't have ice cream. So? having ice cream is special. Is an advantage and a privilege. Not having ice cream is a disadvantage (the 90 should get ice cream too, but that's likely harder to do, since there's more).

Re: Privilege

[inkdust]

I think one reason the term privilege is often used is as part of an attempt to restructure the general perception of society as categories of either "normal" or "disadvantaged." Instead of looking at things from the majority perspective, where those with a disadvantage are simply seen as such, it's trying to include minority perspective, from which standpoint the majority exercises an unearned advantage (unearned meaning not given by merit) that it is often unaware of (see my other comment below). I think the word privilege is partly an attempt to increase majority awareness of their lack of disadvantage, and thereby increase their awareness of others' disadvantage. That's certainly how it was used at my college.

Re: Privilege

[(Anonymous)]

I know, I figured that out after several years of puzzling over social justice language. It would be really helpful if people actually explained this on occasion. Even when you ask, you don't usually get such a nice explanation. When you change the meaning of a word, you can't just expect everyone to magically know what you mean! And it's unfair to twist that around and say "but it's about -ism!" and pretend that anyone who dares ask what you are talking about or dares say that that word doesn't mean that must be evil.