[ SECRET POST #2394 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2394 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I'm sorry, that stops making sense when talking about one person outright acting on what they believe another person will appreciate, despite what that other person is actually telling them. Without anything to discredit their word, that other person IS the final say on that situation. Lily absolutely would be the objective final arbiter on herself as a person and what she really wanted. As outside observers, there's no reason or evidence ever given to think her actual reactions to Snape's demonstrations of "respect" are phony, or that the Lily who would appreciate him keeping her from her muggle sister and so on exists anywhere outside of his own head.

[(Anonymous)]

But there was something to discredit her word, that she obviously did not understand all the implications of what she did. If she doesn't truly understand something then, as well as magnanimously forgiving Lily for that transgression, Snape had to save her by bringing her under his protection (read possession). /ObiWan

That is a genuine human thought process. There is no objectivity in human thought processes, there is only subjectivity.

[(Anonymous)]

That's true, but there's a reason delusional schizophrenics (for example) aren't considered reliable sources of information. Their thoughts and reality are legitimate to them, but if they don't line up with reality as perceived by the person they're acting upon and 99.9% of impartial passive observers, it's past subjectivity to say they're probably mistaken.

I still completely agree that Snape's thought process was along these lines, but he's a construct in a fictional situation which includes the actual POV of his love, not just his idea of her POV. A situation that's being judged by outside readers. We're given no reason to doubt the truth of Lily's words, and no evidence that Snape's thought process have basis in the reality presented in The Prince's Tale or the books overall. Snape may have felt he respected Lily greatly, but Lily clearly would have disagreed based on their friendship when she was alive. As outside readers, it's made objectively clear to us that Snape's thought processes are skewed at best, and we can say that the person he respected was not the Lily we're shown.

(Though again, even looking at the situation through Snape's Mind it doesn't demonstrate a lot of respect -- there's little to indicate what about her does impress him, aside from her having magic. It's all about what he can do to ~save her from herself.)