[ SECRET POST #2396 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2396 ⌋

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[Jason Segel, in "Forgetting Sarah Marshall"]


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[The Cinema Snob]


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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I think the difference, however reprehensible that action was (!!!), is that for all her being super duper smart, Hermione's still a teenager when that stuff goes down. It's a scary ass thing to do to someone, but I don't think it was the same sort of calculated cruelty that Umbridge gets up to. Pretty sure I was much meaner as a teen than I am now; it doesn't make my actions excusable, but it does mean I was young enough to learn and not do that shit again.

[(Anonymous)]

Except she didn't learn. No one every brings up how gross that SNEAK curse was, and she pretty much just goes on doing similarly scary stuff in the next two books.

[truxillogical]

I don't think it was the same sort of calculated cruelty that Umbridge gets up to.

I'm not really on the "Hermione is as bad as Umbridge" train, much as I dislike her, but, well...the curse on Marietta was one of the most calculated and cruel things she did (her parents might top it, but that was more cold than cruel). "Let's, ah, all sign this paper so we'll know who we all are."

She tricked a bunch of kids who were going to a trial meeting of a club into signing a cursed paper, a blank contract, and had the will and the cruelty to make it a curse that would scar someone for life.

It's even worse when you just think of all the circumstances surrounding Marietta at the time. She gets snotty commentary from Harry and folks say she deserved it, but she seemed more like someone trying to do right by her friend and later her mother who got way in over her head.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I feel like the permanency was too much. Make it a week, or maybe even a month, okay. It's still mean, but it's there to fulfill its purpose (tell them who was the sneak) and then it's over. But permanent? That was just too cruel. What if Umbridged had used the cruciatus curse, or the Veritas serum (which was in the movie I think?)

[truxillogical]

Exactly that. There are, as you point out, at least two ways that someone in the Wizarding World can get a confession without a willing stool pigeon. Beyond that, there was a very subtle comment about Marietta's mother's job for the Ministry, which makes it not all that unlikely that Umbridge tried a little blackmail as well.

It's been a while sense I've seen the movie, but I think they did imply she'd used the truth potion on her, possibly to make it a neater, shorter scene. But in the movie she doesn't get hexed either.

Actually, I like Hermione (and Hermione/Ron's relationship) loads better in the movies.

[cyren2132]

Where do you get that she was scarred "for life"?

[(Anonymous)]

Rowling said it was permanent. You want to know the scary part, Rowling thinks it was justified, and would be fine with that in the real world too. Even adult authors can be evil shits at times too.

[dragonimp]

Well that changes the whole feel of that scene. I had assumed reading it that they would go away like regular pimples. Dude, that's just wrong.

[truxillogical]

And that's always been my problem with Hermione. Not that she's out of line sometimes or does bad things--because most interesting characters do from time to time. But that Rowling seems to view the things she does as perfectly acceptable.

[arcadiaego]

Rowling has an odd moral compass regarding her characters. :/

[truxillogical]

She definitely had the scars years later, and in an interview Rowling did say that they were permanent.