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⌈ Secret Post #2397 ⌋

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[About Death]

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[John Rhys-Davies]

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[Attack on Titan]

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[Glee/Corey Monteith]

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05. [SPOILERS for Despicable Me 2]

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06. [SPOILERS for Ace Attorney]

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07. [WARNING for underage]

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08. [WARNING for gore, violence]

[Atonement, Wanted, Last King of Scotland, X-Men First Class]

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09. [WARNING for rape]

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10. [WARNING for death]

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What's wrong with reducing the subject to their biology when you're referring to their biologcal sex/gender (I forget which one I'm supposed to use)?

I mean it's a little more clinical than I'd like, but I don't see it as an act of oppression.

It's not sexist if you're using male/female parallel construction. If you're talking about biology and using male/female parallel construction, I have no issue with it.

it's not oppressive but it's rude, people find it insulting and that should be enough reason for you

don't be a jerk about it, especially if you KNOW people will get bothered

It's not my job to change the way I speak and act just because someone is 'bothered' by it. Should I stop swearing too? What about slang?

If someone has a legitimate reason to be upset by something, I will take into account their feelings. I will not stop using a word just because someone is bothered by it.

While I agree there are sometimes it is a slightly creepy term ("We're going to a club to pick up some females" for example) there are plenty of times it's not, and you know for a fine fact that we're not talking about context here, the majority of people on the internet don't give a fuck about context. We've all had people, I'm sure, come to use trying to shame us into conforming to their standards for no good reason other than it makes them feel good to rule laywer.

TLDR. It's a fucking word. The most harm it can do is make someone seem creepy for using it outside it's normal context. This is not a good reason to consider it a 'bad word', or to shame and judge the people who use it, and it sure as fuck isn't a good enough reason to give the SJW Rule laywers another word they get to police.

are you the op? because if so, you asked why it bothers people, and we are answering you. you are not obligated to change your harmful or disrespectful language, but the people you are hurting or offending are not obligated to stop being hurt/offended by it, either.

No, I'm not the OP.

Harmful? How? I won't argue disrespectful, because I can't. I've been told that swearing as much as I do is disrespectful, and my only retort has been along the lines of "Fuck you, you fucking thin-skinned asshole" (because I'm a classy chick).

Harmful, however, I will argue? Who is being harmed by my use of the word female? I personally grind my teeth when I'm referred to as a 'Lady' do I get to start accusing those people of harming me? I can provide an actual dentist bill giving a numerical value to the harm those people are doing me, so can I have that word decreed as harmful?

dehumanisation is harmful. if people feeling dehumanised by your words then they are harmful words.

Ok. So if I feel dehumanized by being called a 'Lady'...

What about teenagers who don't like being called Kids, because they feel it's belittling them?

What about the people who feeling being called dumb is harmful?

What about the MRA shits who complain about... so very many things being harmful towards men? No fucker takes them seriously.

A person can and usually will feel a number of ways about many perfectly harmless things. At what point do we stop considering a person a stupid overreacter, and start taking them seriously? Or is this line decided by your measuring stick? If you, saku, personally feel harmed by something, is it then harmful?

Oh, and when we're talking about a collection of people, E.g, females, we ARE dehumanizing them. They are no-longer A human, but part of a group, this is true weather we say females, ladies, women, girls, or ponys. When taking about a collection that share a characteristic, we are talking about that group, and that characteristic. NOT humans.

Is it dehumanizing to call me a british person? Shouldn't you call me "a british woman who is thirty five and called Ashley?" Or call me by my full name always, instead of dehumanizing me into being part of a group?

you're not really grasping the concept of what it is to be dehumanised. this whole tangent seems to be some desperate attempt to validate your desire to say offensive things without consequence. i mean, go ahead. you clearly don't care if you hurt people, so

I don't think it's quite correct to separate "disrespectful" and "harmful" out in such a simplistic way. If something is disrespectful, doesn't it make sense that it harms something, even if that thing is only "respect for another person"? If you feel disrespected by someone's casual cursing, and pointing it out only makes them go out of their way to curse at you more, does that not do you some form of harm? Would you not feel somewhat hurt?

Another example, in case that one is hard to understand. The term "lady" is harmful to you. People who use this term to refer to you are disrespecting your wish to be referred to as something else, and it causes you some form of harm. Does that make it more clear?

oh i get it

you're a sociopath!

HAHAHAHAHA.

Using the word female makes me a sociopath.

Goddamn Deathtoll, you are such an idiot.

"Deathtoll"

my username is like, right there for you to see, and you still fuck it up, good job

*Yawn*

go back to bed anon

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