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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-08-01 07:04 pm

[ SECRET POST #2403 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2403 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2013-08-02 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
I once had someone come up to me at a con and tell me which pony they wanted to fuck in the ass while I was cosplaying that pony.

I don't go anywhere near MLP discussion anymore because, yeah, that kind of fandom always gets sexual and creepy. Men ruin everything. :(

(Anonymous) 2013-08-02 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
Considering that 90% of this community is women sexualizing male characters in ways that range from mildly weird to wildly inappropriate, I have spotted a slight omission in your last sentence there.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-02 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
What universe do you live in and can I come join?

(Anonymous) 2013-08-02 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
I Haven't seen much on this site, but women are perfectly capable of creepily sexualizing underage male characters, I spent too long in the Avatar and Harry Potter fandoms to deny that. Between the creepy photomanipulations, of real life underage actors (at least the loli fans aren't sexualizing real underage actors), the really fethishy fanfiction, and some of the conversations turning really disturbing (often which underrage male character they wanted to see raping another underrage male character).

If nothing else fandom has taught me that there are plenty of crazy fangirls and fanboys out there. There's a reason why many cons years ago had to start banning Yaoi paddles by name, it wasn't men going around hitting male cosplayers on the bottom with wooden sticks. Not that fanboys don't have plenty of really creepy things they do at cons, but unfortunately for the human race, crazy knows no gender boundaries.

THANK YOU SO MUCH

(Anonymous) 2013-08-02 04:04 am (UTC)(link)
The internet is yours forever for not being a sexism hypocrite.

Re: THANK YOU SO MUCH

(Anonymous) 2013-08-02 05:38 am (UTC)(link)
ORLY? The internet declines to get grubby pawprints on it from "ooh, women are sexist if they point out how fandom men are dicks" idiots.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-02 07:28 am (UTC)(link)
Guys may not being doing creepy photomanipulations of underage actors, but they'll still make disgusting comments about how they'd like fuck them, so I'm certainly not going to consider them to be somehow more virtuous.

Why do you think the naughty school girl trope exists? Not because of women.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-02 03:02 pm (UTC)(link)
And that would be why I never made any suggestion that they were. Like I said fanboys can be creepy creepy pervs, and will do disgusting things. The whole point of my post was taking issue with the original tone of the post suggesting that it was somehow only guys that do this.

Does the fact women do it too somehow make the creepy fanboys behavior ok or excuse it in some fashion? No, HELL NO, the only thing I indicated in my post was that there were a segment of fangirls that exist to fetishize underrage characters as well, neither gender doing it is ok, its not a contest and someone's gender doesn't win a prize if you can somehow prove that it's .02% less creepy than the other one.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-02 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
na

Context matters.
I've been into MLP since my childhood in the late 80s. Pony porn has always been there but was mostly played as a joke. People who drew porn and meant it were considered weird. Enter male adult fanbase and suddenly it's "I wanna fuck the ponies" 24/7. Your little lecture about female fans doesn't hold up in this very scenario (and yes, I know there are female porn artists amongst the bronies, but guess who is the loud, obnoxious majority?)

(Anonymous) 2013-08-02 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
Honestly, it's all sort of weirdly zen considering how female dominated the porn from the transformers fandom is.

Think about it, MLP and transformers are made by the same company, one is targeted at boys but most of the creepy porn comes from women, the other is targeted at girls with most of its creepy porn coming from men. It's very yin-yang like; and one day the harmony between gender-defying porn fandoms will bring about some sort of rule 34 nirvana.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-02 04:20 am (UTC)(link)
da

I like the way you think.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-02 05:39 am (UTC)(link)
But it's so *important* to point out that women are just as sexist as men, amirite?

SIGH. Thanks for the breath of sanity.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-02 07:30 am (UTC)(link)
Wait, this wasn't even a conversation about fans being sexist, but fans getting their perve on.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-02 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
That is just inappropriate behavior no matter the fandom, and sadly not limited to any one fandom in particular. That's why I won't go to any con that hasn't signed up to the Scalzi behavioral criteria.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-02 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
god yes, this is going to make me feel old, but my first experience with this kind of crap was at a Sci-fi con in the really early 90's. I went with my sister as we were both big trekkies back then, and there was this one really terrible guy there in a badly fitting trek jumpsuit who spent the better part of 2 hours trying to sleazily pick up my sister while I was standing right next to her (she was 16 at the time).

We finally both told him off after being polite for way too long (we were both socially awkward nerds and she didn't want to cause a scene at her first convention), luckily he backed off after we both threatened to get security on him. Unfortunately back then a lot of that crap was swept under the rug, it really is nice to see people stepping up in the last few years to at least try to better the kind of behavior that comes from the bottom 2% of people that attend cons and ruin it for so many others.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-02 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
Agreed