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That's true! I'm glad for you guys, but it would've been nice if we could've had a share ;) I always find those "happiest country in the world" stories kinda hilarious. The main reason we get that title is because we're content. I mean, we have a lot of good stuff going for us (social security, free education, that whole thing); I really believe that the "secret" is that we're aware of the good stuff we have and that we aim to be content rather than happy. No one is happy all the time, aiming to be the happiest country strikes me as aiming too high. We're just... middle of the road and "oh yeah, we do alright". Also, no one is happy that we have to pay half our earnings in taxes, we just accept it because of what it pays for.. (Did any of that make any sense? I swear, my thesis is frying my brain).

I can't think of any laws that are specifically Danish, hm. The most Danish thing I can think of is our insane taxes, and I don't think that counts in any way.

Yeah, and I think we could have done well with you, the Swedes and the Icelandics (the Finns can come too if they want!)

Yeah probably, us Norwegians complain about everything, which is probably why we never win stuff like that.

Yeah the taxes thing is the same in Norway, we might complain but we are aware of the things we get from it, like you free healthcare, education (including Higher education), parks and so on...

A new extended Kalmar union, could be nice!

That's another thing about those stories - I always wonder if the people doing the surveys (is it surveys? I assume it is) have heard us complain. Because we do. A lot. I think we just do some weird semi-shy "pshaw, it's okay" thing when outsiders come around.

Yeah. I mean, I probably wouldn't be writing this damn thesis if not for free higher education

...dammit, me again

it is okay favourite Dane!

I know right! We would rule the world! *mohaha*

Yeah me too, whom goes around asking us? Or is it some other way to figure it out? Yeah we are opposite when outsiders come, we just go "Norway sucks, the roads are awful, the waiting lines in Hospitals are too long and our education sucks"...

Same for me, if Higher education wasn't "free" (we pay a fee of max 2000NOK a semester) and I didn't get my state student loans by default I would not be studying, because my family would never have afforded it.

Aw thank you, favorite Norwegian!

We could be awesome Nordic overlords. And I just realized, the first Kalmar Union was under the Danish Queen Margrete the 1st. We now have Queen Margrete the 2nd. That has to be a sign, right? ~~Even if she has been around for a long time by now. And there's no guarantee she would be the queen of everything if we all joined up.~~

I have no idea. I remember watching something from the Oprah show once, where she was in Denmark after one of those surveys, and it was just so weird. It focused on the strangest things... Heh. You're just more honest?

We don't pay anything for our education, just books and materials. And we get grants, not loans (well, we can get loans, but we don't have to and the grants are not paid back). And yeah, my family probably wouldn't have been able to either (though I have no idea, the system is so ingrained in me that I hardly know how to figure out what it would actually cost).

We would! Queen Margrete 2 is awesome though! I watched a documentary with her not long ago, does she still smoke? I assume she is still just as badass! Well the Swedish King is out because the sex scandal thing, the Norwegian one is just boring. The Queens are pretty okay in both countries, but both are married into it. So your queen it is! Or a collection of them all?

Watching television shows about Norway not made by Norwegians is really odd, so I understand where you are coming from.

I dunno? We have it a lot better than most of the world! But off course it should be even better, and yeah our roads does suck...

Really? We get a mix between grant and loans 40% of the sum is made into a grant each semester as long as you pass all your grades.

I just read a news article about Norwegian Higher Education, average cost of a student in my University College is 200.000NOK and we are the cheapest, the Sami one is 750.000 for each student. Weirdly enough my University College has the highest percentage of people finishing their degrees in the assigned time period.

I would assume if we had to pay for it, the sums would be higher? Because our schools get paid by the amount of students whom pass exams not by the amount of students they take in (there are probably other ways they get money too, but that is one of them)

Like you, I have no idea, our student fee thing is just to make sure we are serious about studying before we get our student loans paid out I think? It isn't like the Unis needs the money.

She doesn't smoke in public anymore (it was a big thing years ago), and I think the official word is "no", but there have been a couple of paparazzi shots. I think she's pretty much the same hehe. Yeah, when you put it like that she kind of is the best option, isn't she? I mean, it's not like it matters much since they won't have any actual power, so it would probably be a collection in the end with the actual power in some kind of EU type combined parlament.

Our roads are starting to suck too, though I know nothing of your roads.

Yup, if you can make the grant stretch (few can) you can get your higher education 100% state sponsored apart from supplies here (most people work on the side or take up loans, since rent alone (at least in the biggest cities, where most of education is centered) can take up most or all of the grant if you're unlucky).

That is quite a lot of money. Kinda puts it into perspective! And yeah, it sounds likely that we'd have to pay more...

We're mostly just told to take it seriously, although we do "only" get our grant for however long the education is supposed to take, with only a few delays allowed.

Yeah, that makes sense! I am glad she is still being awesome though! ~~yeah probably, and I assume we all want to keep our own Royal families, because we are a bit protective of them, even if we tend to complain a lot about them wasting our money~~

Oh, ours is based on our individual fortune so as long as you don't have a lot of money (I think it is a couple of hundred thousand NOK in fortune) you get a full student loan. We don't really have a lot of choices, either full live outside of home, full live at home (but you have to pay it all back) and only scholarships) so I guess it is quite different?

We get 90.000 a year over 10 months for a maximum of 7 years and if you are more than two years behind they stop it until you catch up.

She's still doing her thing, yeah heh. I've always been a bit split - I think it's awesome the amount of cultural value and "advertising" effect (so to speak) they have, I think it sucks how much money they use, and in the end I'm mainly just completely uninterested in their personal lives and think the media is too crazy obsessed with them for my tastes.

Oh, our is based on income too, though yeah, it's more to do with giving us a small amount if we live at home, and a larger amount if we live on our own.

Our total amount varies a lot (most of my friends have similar backgrounds and get strangely varying amounts, for unknown reasons). I don't actually know if they stop it if you're behind, but I'd assume so.

Cool! Yeah, our royal family, especially the prince and his family are doing a lot of good things in the world, including charity and so on. I don't care about what they do, but the fact that our used to be princess, she got married and lost her title, is apparently talking to Angels and opened an Talking To Angels School, is probably annoying me more than it should.

Your income or your parents?

We apply for it and we get the same amount no matter what, except those whom don't want the loan part, whom gets less, but that is a personal choice not a choice the state makes for you. The only difference is the amount you have to pay back.

~~Oh yeah, I remember hearing about that and not being sure what's going on with that.~~

Bit of both. If you live at home, it depends on your parents' income. I'm not entirely sure how it works once you move out (it shouldn't depend on your parents' income anymore, but I think it does a bit? I really ought to know, but the system is confusing). In either case, if your own income is too high your taxes are raised (which also affects the grant, as we pay taxes of those too. I don't know why, they could just make the grants lower and avoid the paperwork, but the entire Danish tax system is nothing if not immensely confusing).

Sounds like a less complicated system, tbh. Our system ends up being more get random amount that no one can explain to you.

I think I need to go to bed now, before I fall asleep on my computer... It's been fun talking to you tonight! And thank you for the kittens, kittens are always wonderful ~~we should make kittens a part of our viking conquest somehow~~.

That does seem confusing!

You pay tax on money from the state? WTF? That is even worse than the Norwegian tax system! You deserve a medal!

Good night, it is always fun talking to you D_A! (I had actually gone to bed between replies, but I couldn't sleep...). I had to share the Kittens with someone, and well I was already talking to you! ~~we should have kittens in our Joint Scandinavian Flag!~~

(I love how we managed to go from age of consent to world domination in one comment thread!)

Oh yes. All government income counts as regular income and is therefore subject to taxes. I don't get it either. No one does, honestly (I'm pretty sure it's all calculated by computers, which is kind of frightening all on its own).

:) I'm always glad to see kittens! ~~I now have the urge to photoshop kittens onto a flag~~.

(It is kind of awesome!)

Make a photoshopped kitten flag!

Well. I may already have done that this afternoon when I was procrastinating on the thesis... I'll put it in a thread in the GC of the latest post sometime tomorrow ;)

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