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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-08-03 03:28 pm

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Surprise Blackface...

[personal profile] anonymouslyyours 2013-08-04 02:06 am (UTC)(link)
I mean I knew theoretically racists are regular people too but I'd never known a surprise racist before. I've always kind of seen it coming. But now I have to be pleasant to someone who displayed a picture of herself in horribly stereotypical blackface joyfully. In a church. Under the eye of a dead Jesus painting.

She seemed so sweet and normal. WTF?

Re: Surprise Blackface...

(Anonymous) 2013-08-04 02:14 am (UTC)(link)
I'm beginning to think blackface fears are wholly American and maybe UK (plural of UK is???)

I can understand the history of it behind places that have, well, the history to make blackface such a touchy issue but elsewhere? I feel like I'm watching a fandom I'm not in explode everytime blackface comes up.

Re: Surprise Blackface...

(Anonymous) 2013-08-04 02:25 am (UTC)(link)
It seems like it's definitely one of those things where countries outside the US don't understand the terrible racist legacy blackface represents (at least in the American context)

cf that one video where Harry Connick Jr is on an Australian variety show and there's a blackface act and he is just like "what the fuck is this shit"

Re: Surprise Blackface...

[personal profile] anonymouslyyours 2013-08-04 02:30 am (UTC)(link)
Being completely honest I've never really gotten the hullabaloo over a cosplayer using makeup to more closely resemble a specific character. It's maybe a little... off? But to me it's a different thing than blackface.

History or not (what I think of as) Blackface seems awful. Even with ~good intentions~ it comes off as patronizing, twee, and mocking. Just... "Tee hee! I'm black today, how silly!"

Really hoping this doesn't turn into blackface wank... :/ Eh, it's pretty late and slow.

Re: Surprise Blackface...

(Anonymous) 2013-08-04 02:36 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I mean I can understand why it would rub people the wrong way - but that's not quite the same as Blackface.

Re: Surprise Blackface...

(Anonymous) 2013-08-05 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
Same here. I mean, I totally and completely understand why actual blackface with the heavy makeup and giant red lips (and the making fun of POC for money while wearing it, obviously) is completely unacceptable, but...that's not what a cosplayer is wearing or doing? The difference is obvious at a glance. I'm not looking for wank either, it's just that I cannot see the equivalency here no matter how hard I try.

Re: Surprise Blackface...

(Anonymous) 2013-08-04 02:35 am (UTC)(link)
I've had that happen with both a [former] close friend, and a family member. Both times I'd known them for a long time, then out of no where they started talking about how all people of -insert race- were -insert horrible stereotypes-. One even went as far to say "People who were only half -race- were okay, but not full!" : /

Always an unpleasant surprise.

Re: Surprise Blackface...

(Anonymous) 2013-08-04 08:36 am (UTC)(link)
One time we had a new dude at work and someone was trying to chat him up in the breakroom and said 'Aimee said you were cute - and wow, it's true~' and he replied 'Is that the black girl? No thank you - I don't believe in the mixing of the races' and you could have heard a pin drop. Needless to say, he was not long for our hallowed halls.
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Re: Surprise Blackface...

[personal profile] forgottenjester 2013-08-04 05:36 am (UTC)(link)
I feel so sheltered because where I live I didn't know blackface still happened until college. And even then I only learned because of the internet and a professor I had who was well versed in its history and was willing to talk about it at length when asked.