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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-08-03 03:28 pm

[ SECRET POST #2405 ]


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(Anonymous) 2013-08-04 09:55 am (UTC)(link)
There are a ton of people who never have to work in their life because their parents took care of the family's financial security before they were even born. This money they didn't earn might lead them into leading positions in the economy, politics or military, either directly or through guaranteeing them an education without distracting material worries.

That doesn't mean that inheritance is automatically bad - after all, the parents have a right to do with their money as they will, since they did earn it. The morals of inheritance are, as a matter of fact, a really fucking complicated topic.

But if you're not going to complain about all of it, complaining specifically about the royals makes you look like you A) don't actually know what's up there (they're a financial net positive for the UK before even looking at tourism), and B) like you're railing against a visible institution because you can't be bothered to understand the underlying issues in the system.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-04 06:17 pm (UTC)(link)
The question of monarchy and royalty is fundamentally and characteristically different than the question of inheritance in general. Because what the Queen will pass on to her heirs is not just money or influence; it is a unique and significant legal status, that of sovereign over the United Kingdom, and ruler over its subjects. That is an inescapable and real difference. Even if someone is given a massive inheritance from their parents and uses that to purchase influence, that's still different from someone being considered, for their entire life, categorically legally and formally distinct from ordinary people simply by virtue of one's parents. Hereditary monarchy is simply different from inheritance.

Even in the case of inheritance, although it is tricky, we do try to make regulations and taxes to control the effect that inheritance has on society and that massive economic inequities have on society, and we try to ensure that these things are limited. But the case is different here - for one thing, you can't possibly say that the royal family has their position because they've earned it. But more importantly, their inheritance is something other than money, it is a fundamental legal and political distinction.

I fully accept that there's thorny issues surrounding inheritance and surrounding power and social inequity, and that none of those issues would go away if a country got rid of its monarchy. However, being opposed to the monarchy doesn't mean that we can't address those issues at the same time. We can have many political beliefs, and advocate doing many things, simultaneously, especially when those beliefs don't contradict each other in any way and even reinforce each other.

A hereditary monarchy is in itself unjust and wrong, and therefore it should be ended. Full stop. Regardless of whether there are other problems in society (of course there are), or whether it's an economic benefit to the country, whatever the context surrounding it, it is unjust, illegitimate, and insupportable, and should be ended because of that.